They need to do something about impossible rounds

[Dobious]

Ever just get a round that's completely unwinable? It sucks, especially when you're going for achivements.

A good example of an impossible round would be the following:

- 2-3 HP
- 3-4 items received
- More than 2-3 rounds
- Dealer gets magnifying glass, saw and sometimes inverter
- You as the player get useless duplicates or other items that won't help your situation

There really is no way to get around death here and it kills runs. While I get it is a game based around luck and probabilities, it is also a little demoralizing that it's all up to the whims of RNG with no strategic redemption.

[Badstormer]

On 2 HP rounds in particular, there are definitely cases where your fate is up to chance alone and they're the only case I'd consider to be legitimately unfair even in the context of gambling. I'm not sure what the best solution to this is, but the simplest solution to me is to just raise the minimum HP to at least 3.

[TheWildThorn]

I remember getting mad that the RNG gave me a bad wrap. Then I remembered, Russian Roulette, what this game is based on, is entirely RNG anyways. Gotta accept the RNG fate.

[Dobious]

Originally posted by TheWildThorn:

I remember getting mad that the RNG gave me a bad wrap. Then I remembered, Russian Roulette, what this game is based on, is entirely RNG anyways. Gotta accept the RNG fate.

True, but despite that it is also a video game. I'd prefer if the "RNG" was more based on probability than you getting unlucky and losing your progress. That way there's atleast a chance to navigate these tricky situations. There's just no fun in having everything left to chance (not that the game isn't fun), especially when you get really far.

[TheWildThorn]

Originally posted by Dobious:

Originally posted by TheWildThorn:

I remember getting mad that the RNG gave me a bad wrap. Then I remembered, Russian Roulette, what this game is based on, is entirely RNG anyways. Gotta accept the RNG fate.

True, but despite that it is also a video game. I'd prefer if the "RNG" was more based on probability than you getting unlucky and losing your progress. That way there's atleast a chance to navigate these tricky situations. There's just no fun in having everything left to chance (not that the game isn't fun), especially when you get really far.

I suppose a limitations of what you can get in a row would be more fair. But RNG will always be present in a game like this. 2 lives, saw, magnifying glass, inverter (dealer) vs you having 4 cigs is a quite unlucky stroke. Perhaps not getting certain items if you get another, like not getting a phone if you have a magnifying glass, no duplicates. That's about all I can think of, but then they'd have to limit the amount of items you could get, which might actually make people think twice before using one. But, he can always steal something if he has the adrenaline. If it's about to be his turn and he's on the last life with an adrenaline at his disposal, I always use up all my cigs even if I'm full health just cus I know he'd steal it and get himself back on top.

[apathy]

Originally posted by TheWildThorn:

I remember getting mad that the RNG gave me a bad wrap. Then I remembered, Russian Roulette, what this game is based on, is entirely RNG anyways. Gotta accept the RNG fate.

I've seen the dealer get royally screwed by bad RNG as well.
4 blanks, 1 live are remaining. Takes his turn, shoots himself with the live. It happens.

Problem is the dealer isn't a human player trying to get 1000K twice, its under no pressure to win every single game. It only needs to win once to end your run, and you need to beat it at least 18 times.

[Luna ~]

luck and rng in a gambling game, say it aint sooo

[The Notorious C.O.C]

Wait until you learn how IRL gambling and especially IRL Russian Roulette works.

[apathy]

Originally posted by The Notorious C.O.C:

Wait until you learn how IRL gambling and especially IRL Russian Roulette works.

We're talking about a game.

Give us some credit will ya? We're not stupid enough to throw away our savings at a casino, or put a gun to our heads.

[Pierce Dalton]

It's a luck based game, and sometimes luck is not on your side, it is what it is.

[Truth_X_ile]

From my experience, it's is insanely RNG & Luck based for sure

Regularly I get 3 losses in a row, I did manage to get 3 wins in a row, then lost, then after that, I lost 3 more times in a row, but that 3 win streak was based on a $40K start, so I would have needed to win 3 more times to get over One Million, which would have been even more insane RNG & Luck needed

While possible, I'm not too worried about it, but I'm just agreeing with the odds are literally against you

The amount of times I saw him use all items in seamless order & he manages to siphon all the blanks out by shooting himself without any knowledge, even when more live rounds than blanks & odds against it always works in their favor more than mine

Still the above doesn't bother me, I'm just rolling RNG

The most annoying part for me is delaying the inevitable loss, last round is live, or they used items like magnifying glass & a switch to make it live, then they use a cigarette to heal, when I would die from the shot, I think the priority should be to end the game, not heal & delay it, we already have to wait through the transitions to start a new game

My Favorite Person on Steam, Just Don't Tell Anyone

Good Luck & Have Fun

[Zelmon64]

or just get rid of the 1000k achievements or at least shorten them down

[Spider Jerusalem]

Give up and use an achievement unlocker. It’s the only way.

[Spider Jerusalem]

Originally posted by Zelmon64:

or just get rid of the 1000k achievements or at least shorten them down

Or just unlock it using an achievement unlocker you idiot

[Spider Jerusalem]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

It's a luck based game, and sometimes luck is not on your side, it is what it is.

It’s NEVER on MY side ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Kuiper]

an entire year later and this is still accurate, honestly kinda feels like the devs see this blatant issue and decides to do literally nothing about it lol. it's one thing to have a game like this where rng is a core factor, but given that they obviously at the very least *tried* to add things to minimize the amount of luck needed via the items, it just seems really dumb to have something like the 1000k achievements while making it to where there are just so many rounds where you literally have a 0% chance to win no matter what. if all rounds in DON were 4+ hp, it would honestly be a significantly better and more enjoyable game. all the 2hp rounds do is make the game frustrating to play.