dealer cheats

[Boozy_Bush]

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[𝘡𝘦𝘴🐾]

I have also experienced multiple times when the dealer does three or so shots to himself only to use double damage and shoot me. Without the use of phone or magnifying glass. The Dealer seems to be way too aware of the shells in the gun, very often doing exactly the correct shots to himself and use of items to kill me....way more often to be pure chance.

[TrainedToTroll]

I've played more than 3 hours and I do not think this is the case. Depending on your progress the dealer and you unlock some items that allow him/it to change a gray shell to a red one. Watch closely. Count the shells. I've seen no cheating as far as moves. Now... item spawns however for the dealer can be sus sometimes lol. However, you go first each round so it is easy to win with very basic logic and some luck.

[ShugoTheRipper]

Always feels like the dealer knows what you heard on the phone, but it could just still be RNG.

[RedSage]

I've definitely seen the dealer try to shoot me with blanks that the phone told me about, as well as shoot himself with lives the phone told me about, so I don't think he does "hear" it.

Another thing worth noting is how the dealer's AI works in DoN. If there's more blanks than lives, he'll always shoot himself. If there's more lives than blanks, he'll shoot you. If they're even, he "flips a coin" to decide whether or not to shoot you. The only time be deviates from this behaviour is when using the magnifying glass and presumably the phone.

I think it's just confirmation bias that makes people think he's cheating. In my 3 1m+ runs, I've never seen him do anything unusual or out of the ordinary that would make me suspect he's cheating.

[層流 (ラミナ）]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bush:

When playing double or nothing the shotgun rounds are not accurate, as in when using the phone, it gave me the wrong info a couple times and the dealer is shooting me with rounds that literally have to be blanks because all the live ones have been fired. This happens quite often that there are either more or less blanks and live rounds.

Phone doesn't give wrong info. It does, however, give info from the current shell, NOT the first. This is what trips up many people about using it.

[Szarps;]

Originally posted by ShugoTheRipper:

Always feels like the dealer knows what you heard on the phone, but it could just still be RNG.

I do feel this is most often, HOWEVER even that i think this is a bug, there is a chance that is just that the logic of the dealer is actually so sound right now that it can speculate what you heared based on what you did:

imagine you are in the odd number of shots (7 for example), you hear the phone 4th is live), so if you both decide to shoot yourselfs without any items the dealer will be shooting you on the second time with the shotgun, however if you try shooting yourself THEN shoot him, he knows theres a live shell in a pair shot, so he chooses to risk it and shoot himself to deny you that chance, since is always best be on the odd number when shooting the other one exclusively, hence if the logic is sound after hearing the phone and you doing that, why would you put yourself outside of an optimal position? must be because you know something that would otherwise change that idea

[Boozy_Bush]

No, dealer deff cheats, i have about 5 clips where there are no live rounds left, but he will still pull one out of his ass or something and kill me with it

[Levia]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bush:

No, dealer deff cheats, i have about 5 clips where there are no live rounds left, but he will still pull one out of his ass or something and kill me with it

Let's see them then

[MrAmazing79]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bush:

No, dealer deff cheats, i have about 5 clips where there are no live rounds left, but he will still pull one out of his ass or something and kill me with it

i would like to see this video

[Rockethead293]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bush:

No, dealer deff cheats, i have about 5 clips where there are no live rounds left, but he will still pull one out of his ass or something and kill me with it

clips buddy

[層流 (ラミナ）]

Originally posted by Boozy_Bush:

No, dealer deff cheats, i have about 5 clips where there are no live rounds left, but he will still pull one out of his ass or something and kill me with it

Yea, that didn't happen. Either he had a way to access an inverter or you're mistaken about the remaining live rounds.

[megamewtwom]

Would be an interesting premise for a tabletop horror though, admittedly. There's a set of rules in the game to follow, but the enemy just doesn't follow them and does whatever it wants.

[Khaosgnostic]

Steam has a Note feature which you can use to count the shells and take notes on the Dealer's moves. The game doesn't cheat.

[NT]

Originally posted by Zes🐾:

I have also experienced multiple times when the dealer does three or so shots to himself only to use double damage and shoot me. Without the use of phone or magnifying glass. The Dealer seems to be way too aware of the shells in the gun, very often doing exactly the correct shots to himself and use of items to kill me....way more often to be pure chance.

the dealer is an ai he will cheat

[Old Shoe]

okay this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥. I just played double or nothing and on the dealer's first turn he immediately used saw, handcuffed me, and shot me without any way of knowing the order of shells. then on his next turn he used saw again and killed me.
it was 3 live and 5 blanks.

he did not have the phone or magnifying glass.