1.2 GB? What?

[M(i)ech]

Why does this game take so much space? It's a game from from 1994! Back then 25 MB was a lot, no PC in all of existence even had 1.2 GB of HDD memory. UFO Enemy Unknown (original X-COM) released on same year takes ~17 MB, this has no buisiness taking more than 30 MB.

[Crashed]

Both games are CD-ROM based. The game runs on DOSBox and is distributed with ISO images of the game CDs which are mounted in the emulator.

[Telfram]

Two games installed:
Jagged Alliance
Jagged Alliance Deadly Games
And as they had to run with the CD in the drive to upload files during the play a full copy of the CD is in their folders as well.
JA -installed 49.2 MB
CD 629 MB
JADG -installed 49.6 MB
CD 629 MB

Along with DOSBOX and other config files

[Kordanor]

As it was already mentioned. Both games are CD Rom based.
And they were actually using that space. You have over 60 Characters in each game, and each character has lots and lots of voicelines.

[Johnny Natrium]

I wonder how this guy thought those FMV games that shipped with 4-CDroms worked. Famous at the time for holding around 700mb each. But if no PC could hold that, there couldn't have been more than about 50Mb combined on those disks. So why include 4 when you could put that incredibly compressed data easily on one disk??!

[Sunkilla]

this guy literally complaining about 1.2 gigs? thats nothing now a days. Jesus christ people cry about everything.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by Johnny Natrium:

I wonder how this guy thought those FMV games that shipped with 4-CDroms worked. Famous at the time for holding around 700mb each. But if no PC could hold that, there couldn't have been more than about 50Mb combined on those disks. So why include 4 when you could put that incredibly compressed data easily on one disk??!

I think people forget that this stage in gaming happened with PCs. People had "partial installs" and they ran a lot of the stuff off the CD sometimes and then if you got a HDD big enough you could install whole CDs (wow!). PSX games streamed off the CD too and could have all those FMVs and graphics as a result. It was kind of like a repeat of the early floppy days before.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by M(i)ech:

Why does this game take so much space? It's a game from from 1994! Back then 25 MB was a lot, no PC in all of existence even had 1.2 GB of HDD memory. UFO Enemy Unknown (original X-COM) released on same year takes ~17 MB, this has no buisiness taking more than 30 MB.

Go do some research before you make posts like this, you'll be doing yourself a favour. JA on GOG clocks in at 286 MB and that doesn't include the expansion.

I also guarantee you that someone had a computer in the 90s that was capable of more than 1.2 gig of HDD storage. It wouldn't be your average home user, however I bet that my current home PC's HDD capacity would probably surprise you today. I know people with more HDD storage than I have so it's not like it's entirely impossible back in the 90s for someone to have more than you'd expect.

I knew several people in my University in the mid 90s who had pretty high end computer systems with 500-700 or so megabytes of computer HDD storage. I am absolutely certain that some computers had more than 1.2 gig HDD storage in the 90s. Ever hear of a rack mount server?

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by M(i)ech:

Why does this game take so much space? It's a game from from 1994! Back then 25 MB was a lot, no PC in all of existence even had 1.2 GB of HDD memory. UFO Enemy Unknown (original X-COM) released on same year takes ~17 MB, this has no buisiness taking more than 30 MB.

Go do some research before you make posts like this, you'll be doing yourself a favour. JA on GOG clocks in at 286 MB and that doesn't include the expansion.

I also guarantee you that someone had a computer in the 90s that was capable of more than 1.2 gig of HDD storage. It wouldn't be your average home user, however I bet that my current home PC's HDD capacity would probably surprise you today. I know people with more HDD storage than I have so it's not like it's entirely impossible back in the 90s for someone to have more than you'd expect.

I knew several people in my University in the mid 90s who had pretty high end computer systems with 500-700 or so megabytes of computer HDD storage. I am absolutely certain that some computers had more than 1.2 gig HDD storage in the 90s. Ever hear of a rack mount server?

Lot of people were also happily on home computers in the early and mid 90s that had no hard drives at all. Wild time. Lot of variety of tech. :D

[Stingray_tm]

As already mentioned, JA Gold includes its expansion "Deadly Games", both CD Rom games which used (for the time) a lot of digitised speech. If I remember correctly, (it has been a while...) the speech files were read from CD Rom, while the installation itself was a lot smaller.
Also keep in mind, that this game was made before MP3 was widely used (and PCs had enough processing power to actually play this format while running a game at the same time)... So all the sound files are in uncompressed, space wasting waveform (and probably in rather low quality one because of CD Rom limitations...)

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Hoxilicious:

Lot of people were also happily on home computers in the early and mid 90s that had no hard drives at all. Wild time. Lot of variety of tech. :D

Absolutely. The computer we had around that time had only floppy drives, no HDD storage. Prior to that I had a few different computers and one of them had cartridge games, but zero storage. No tape drive, no HDD, no floppy, nothing. I remember opting for pre-Pentium CPU when I got a new computer in the 90s and was glad I did due to the divide by zero issue that happened with some of the Pentium chips. That system had a relatively small HDD so most software was on floppy or CD and didn't usually fully install on the HDD, much like JA.

[supersaidla]

Good question and good answers :)

[Telfram]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

I also guarantee you that someone had a computer in the 90s that was capable of more than 1.2 gig of HDD storage. It wouldn't be your average home user, however I bet that my current home PC's HDD capacity would probably surprise you today. I know people with more HDD storage than I have so it's not like it's entirely impossible back in the 90s for someone to have more than you'd expect.

Ahhh, the good ole days.
My first PC (not AMIGA) in about 1995
The brand new Pentium 100 Mhz
8 Meg of RAM
1 Meg Graphics
Windows 95
4 speed CD-ROM
And as the salesman said this HUGE 1.06 gig HDD that i would probably never fill.
:)

[Harry]

My first computer.memory-48k

[Telfram]

Originally posted by Harry:

My first computer.memory-48k:flyinghappy:

Sinclair Spectrum 48k with tape player by any chance?

[Harry]

Yeah bro, well sotted. Great little machine, much maligned in the day, but in trospect some great titles. Mike Singlerton;s game especially come to mind.