H-Events are paywalled?

[Danlorn]

Hey fellow pervs!
The question is, is there any way to finish the h-event completely without paying real moneyz? Paying $10 (at least) to beat it seems ridiculous...

[Providence 777]

I almost finished the last H-event without paying, but I came up short and couldn't finish the last chapter.

In should be possible in theory, but it's not practical for the following reasons:

• You have to always check the "lust factor generator" every two hours, forget sleeping, you'd have to check it that frequently, or else you waste that resource.
  
• You can't level up the generator until several days of collecting lust factor to finish the 1st chapter
  
• You need to level up the generator at least once before the larger Lust Coin packages unlock.
  
• You have to limit how much Chrona you spend on "Lust Coins" until "x360" multiplier unlocks, so you'll have enough Chrona for those larger packages, which isn't until 6 days into the event.

If you could claim those lust factors ever 2 hours without missing a beat for the entire event, it should be possible. In theory, you only have to keep that up until you unlock the level 3 generator, but I've never unlocked the level 3 generator before x_x

[Danlorn]

Originally posted by Providence 777:

I almost finished the last H-event without paying, but I came up short and couldn't finish the last chapter.

In should be possible in theory, but it's not practical for the following reasons:

• You have to always check the "lust factor generator" every two hours, forget sleeping, you'd have to check it that frequently, or else you waste that resource.
  
• You can't level up the generator until several days of collecting lust factor to finish the 1st chapter
  
• You need to level up the generator at least once before the larger Lust Coin packages unlock.
  
• You have to limit how much Chrona you spend on "Lust Coins" until "x360" multiplier unlocks, so you'll have enough Chrona for those larger packages, which isn't until 6 days into the event.

If you could claim those lust factors ever 2 hours without missing a beat for the entire event, it should be possible. In theory, you only have to keep that up until you unlock the level 3 generator, but I've never unlocked the level 3 generator before x_x

Thanks for the reply! I guess the problem with claiming the lust factor every two hours can be solved by using an auto clicker. Though, in this case your PC is the one who should forget about sleeping xD As for everything else, welp, let's see...

How far did you get in the last event without paying btw?

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by Danlorn:

Originally posted by Providence 777:

I almost finished the last H-event without paying, but I came up short and couldn't finish the last chapter.

In should be possible in theory, but it's not practical for the following reasons:

• You have to always check the "lust factor generator" every two hours, forget sleeping, you'd have to check it that frequently, or else you waste that resource.
  
• You can't level up the generator until several days of collecting lust factor to finish the 1st chapter
  
• You need to level up the generator at least once before the larger Lust Coin packages unlock.
  
• You have to limit how much Chrona you spend on "Lust Coins" until "x360" multiplier unlocks, so you'll have enough Chrona for those larger packages, which isn't until 6 days into the event.

If you could claim those lust factors ever 2 hours without missing a beat for the entire event, it should be possible. In theory, you only have to keep that up until you unlock the level 3 generator, but I've never unlocked the level 3 generator before x_x

Thanks for the reply! I guess the problem with claiming the lust factor every two hours can be solved by using an auto clicker. Though, in this case your PC is the one who should forget about sleeping xD As for everything else, welp, let's see...

How far did you get in the last event without paying btw?

An auto clicker won't work because you can't just click one button, you have to open the menu for the lust factor first, then hit "claim" (they put the two buttons on opposite sides). And I don't think the menu refreshes the amount while it's open.

I got up to chapter 5, and made it a quarter of the way through. But mind you, I missed a couple days of lust factor because of IRL stuff.

I only got to claim about 400ish lust factor a day at most. So with actual dedication you might make it further than I did.

[ciesol-v]

Skins are the same way, you will easily go $50+ dollars in to get a simple image on the background. Anything you spend towards it is a waste unless you go the full amount to get it. It just disappears when the event is over.

Last two lust factor ones I didn't notice the bigger factor buys are available as time goes on, or maybe I just didn't have access because I never got that far. I can't see how this will get done without spending crystals on it at the very least...

But the way this entire game is setup it's most definitely going to need money. They're greedy ducks.

I'm playing hoping I don't have to spend cash, but events come and go and I don't get anything out of it. I also got bit hard by that skin thing, I should've just stopped... but...

Sometimes I browse the players that are at the top and wonder just how many thousands of dollars they've put into this game. Sure some folks will say well everyone's got their hobbies or what not, but I seriously think those folks are addicts getting taken advantage of.

The gacha feel "I'm gonna get it!" is a gambling thing, for sure.

good luck...

[Malamasala]

I tried last event with hording all the lust from the store until the big packs were open. Which revealed to me that the biggest ones only had about 10 to be bought, and that the second biggest one only had about 30 to be bought. So it is not possible to save up and finish it in the end.

Instead the design forces you to try and spend those things early to unlock upgrades, if you want to have a chance at completing the event. Haven't quite figured out on what and how much and when to spend it yet, which just proves the entire design is made so you don't get it as F2P. You are supposed to be so confused and fearing FOMO that you pay real money.

And if you do get that desparate, I would suggest trying to get upgrades through real money as that seem to be the most important part in collecting enough points. (But it may require you to log in often and waste your life).

All in all, I'm just letting this game trick me into staying to see if I can get enough 5 star and UR upgrades to get a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If I don't, I'll quit. If I do make it, I'll stick around. Design seem to imply I won't get it though, as it probably requires spending a little more real money to actually make it in time.

[HellGreen]

Thats why there is no point to spend any amount of $ in any kind of this games. Because usually 100 or even 500$ is nothing in long term. You need 1000$+ to compete. All games is a money milking gambling addict based projects so the only thing devs thinking is how to lure money from a player. Play few weeks or few months for free while you have interest and game is new for you. Than drop and find another new game that is the best strategy with no regrets for losing money. Those top players are mostly gambling addicts its a mental illness you don't want to compete with mentaly ill persons belive me. And those gif images with +5% stats not worth 50$ or even 10$ at all.

[Danlorn]

Originally posted by HellGreen:

Thats why there is no point to spend any amount of $ in any kind of this games. Because usually 100 or even 500$ is nothing in long term. You need 1000$+ to compete. All games is a money milking gambling addict based projects so the only thing devs thinking is how to lure money from a player. Play few weeks or few months for free while you have interest and game is new for you. Than drop and find another new game that is the best strategy with no regrets for losing money. Those top players are mostly gambling addicts its a mental illness you don't want to compete with mentaly ill persons belive me. And those gif images with +5% stats not worth 50$ or even 10$ at all.

Tbh I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks here and there if the game is fun. But when the monetization is so aggressive I just don't want to support that.
Also it's just my assumption, but it seems they use too much of AI art in the scenes, so paying for that feels even more ridiculous. I mean if the event (or any other ones in the game) scenes were made by real artists for sure, that would justify the price to me. But when it's a low effort AI stuff, no thanks x2.

[Malamasala]

Originally posted by Danlorn:

Originally posted by HellGreen:

Thats why there is no point to spend any amount of $ in any kind of this games. Because usually 100 or even 500$ is nothing in long term. You need 1000$+ to compete. All games is a money milking gambling addict based projects so the only thing devs thinking is how to lure money from a player. Play few weeks or few months for free while you have interest and game is new for you. Than drop and find another new game that is the best strategy with no regrets for losing money. Those top players are mostly gambling addicts its a mental illness you don't want to compete with mentaly ill persons belive me. And those gif images with +5% stats not worth 50$ or even 10$ at all.

Tbh I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks here and there if the game is fun. But when the monetization is so aggressive I just don't want to support that.
Also it's just my assumption, but it seems they use too much of AI art in the scenes, so paying for that feels even more ridiculous. I mean if the event (or any other ones in the game) scenes were made by real artists for sure, that would justify the price to me. But when it's a low effort AI stuff, no thanks x2.

I've always wanted to run my own F2P game, where you get these things if you pay like 1-2 dollars. Sure, the players would be spending 100s of dollars on my game in the long run, which is expensive. But not a single time when they are spending will they feel like it is actually too much.

I've not been too much against spending money on Nikke since they delivered such a great storyline along with the game. But this game felt like story is best skipped because it is so boring. And if you skip the story, the rest of the game is just auto-battles and grinds, making the only thing worth money the porn. Which you can get for a better value in other games.

[HellGreen]

Draco Pack ~8$
This content contains the following.
Draco. Eltanin
Star Key x 5

Full Game No Man's Sky with discount till 4 november ~8$

:D All this free to play games price policy are joke. 5 star keys and 1 copy of a character is NOTHING in terms of competition and overall game progression.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by HellGreen:

Draco Pack ~8$
This content contains the following.
Draco. Eltanin
Star Key x 5

Full Game No Man's Sky with discount till 4 november ~8$

:D All this free to play games price policy are joke. 5 star keys and 1 copy of a character is NOTHING in terms of competition and overall game progression.

The pricing model in this game is terrible for the value. And that's saying a lot from me because I play Genshin.

[Cyberweasel89]

Originally posted by Danlorn:

Originally posted by HellGreen:

Thats why there is no point to spend any amount of $ in any kind of this games. Because usually 100 or even 500$ is nothing in long term. You need 1000$+ to compete. All games is a money milking gambling addict based projects so the only thing devs thinking is how to lure money from a player. Play few weeks or few months for free while you have interest and game is new for you. Than drop and find another new game that is the best strategy with no regrets for losing money. Those top players are mostly gambling addicts its a mental illness you don't want to compete with mentaly ill persons belive me. And those gif images with +5% stats not worth 50$ or even 10$ at all.

Tbh I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks here and there if the game is fun. But when the monetization is so aggressive I just don't want to support that.
Also it's just my assumption, but it seems they use too much of AI art in the scenes, so paying for that feels even more ridiculous. I mean if the event (or any other ones in the game) scenes were made by real artists for sure, that would justify the price to me. But when it's a low effort AI stuff, no thanks x2.

Honestly, I have to agree.

If he just used a bot to make images, slaps them in a game, and demands we pay for work he didn't do? I don't care how the images look, that just feels like a get-rich-quick scheme.

I've spoken with several eroge developers in my job as an academic researcher and they've all been extremely passionate about the artistry of their eroge and the effort they put into their work. They often speak appreciatively of the fans who buy their eroge and sincerely hope said fans enjoy their works. So this kinda makes me angry on their behalf.

Especially when the monetization is this aggressive, it especially makes it reek of a low-effort cash-grab.

I've similarly been completely fine with dropping some cash if the game is good and I feel like I'm not being pressured to spend. But this ain't it, chief. So again, I 100% agree with you here, bro.

[RRyley]

I've been able to unlock the first H-scene from most events, usually by spending Corona I've earned during the event. I don't know if these events will replay in the future, or pick up where they left off, so it's possible that without paying I'll never get any further but scene 1.

[Naduron]

Nope you dont need to spend money all you need is ingame credits that billions of way of getting to spend on the event item
all you need is the ingame credits to buy that is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheap

[Echun]

10 USD minimum, also that needs to be paid as soon as event begins. Must also log in every 4 hours over a week to claim points.

In game credits is not enough, simply because the reactor upgrade requires real money and can't be bought with corona.

Nutaku make you pay at least 10 USD plus your precious time or miss out on full clear.