Joystick Configuration Woes

[mR.Waffles]

Hey guys,

After realizing an input murmur from my old Forcefeed Back Pro 2 was causing the game to shift rapidly between mouse and joystick mode I decided to use my newer ThrustMaster T.16000M. Unfortunately as you can see from this screen[k6rg1a-sn3302.files.1drv.com] the game labels the Z (twist) access "Y". So I cannot bind my twist for roll.

You can see here[6xltyg-sn3302.files.1drv.com] the Z Axis is correctly identified in Windows so I am not sure why the game is duplicating Y.

[Kolbex]

Lack of buttons is really not an issue for me, although remembering them might be. It was more I couldn't figure out what to bind to issue the orders that just pop up automatically when using the gamepad.

[Rangoon]

Pie Face Poo Face님이 먼저 게시:

wstephenson님이 먼저 게시:

Now if you'd hung on to it, you'd *still* have a working CH joystick. There was even a guy making Gameloft to USB adapters for them for a while. Try that with your glitzy Thrustwangler Flight Adornments! ;)

It's the lack of buttons really. I'm used to saitek HOTAS. Never had issues with them.

Not to be argumentative, but you don't seem to understand CH Products very well. They are the opposite end of basic. I've owed CH for many years (from before USB), and have owned Saitek as well. I always keep up on the latest iterations of Thrustmaster, Saitek, Logitech, and have to say I stick with CH because I just can't imagine achieving the precision and level of sophistication with anything else that I do with my CH HOTAS. Maybe Thrustmaster, but I also own some Thrustmater gear and have used their software too. It's the software that really works the magic, but the hardware is rock solid, too, with nothing goofy about the ergonimics...very basic/generic (though F-16 inspired) and work great for all sims that I use them for. I run many profiles with 8-10 analog axes (stick X/Y, throttle, pedals, toe brakes, two rotaries, mini stick X/Y) multiple modes for each button used with scripted virtual "shift" keys plus the actual "shift" button, plus the CH Multi Function Panel. Throw in the standard Throttle Quad which I use as levers to activate lever stuff (not for analog axes) and all of it's extra buttons, plus I have the Franken Potato mod on my Pro Throttle. I use these in combination with the Thrustmaster MFDs for study sims like Falcon 4, DCS, etc. CH is far from basic in every way except their ergonomics, where being basic is a virtue.

Just something to consider, out of fairness for what CH gear is really like.

EDIT: and to be clear, there are no lack of buttons...I couldn't begin to count all the buttons on the stick, throttle, Franken Potato, Throttle Quad, MFP...multiplied by 4 modes, and each with an option for shift... effectively endless. And physically, we're talking dozens upon dozens.

[zentric egg]

Rangoon님이 먼저 게시:

Pie Face Poo Face님이 먼저 게시:

It's the lack of buttons really. I'm used to saitek HOTAS. Never had issues with them.

Not to be argumentative, but you don't seem to understand CH Products very well. They are the opposite end of basic. I've owed CH for many years (from before USB), and have owned Saitek as well. I always keep up on the latest iterations of Thrustmaster, Saitek, Logitech, and have to say I stick with CH because I just can't imagine achieving the precision and level of sophistication with anything else that I do with my CH HOTAS. Maybe Thrustmaster, but I also own some Thrustmater gear and have used their software too. It's the software that really works the magic, but the hardware is rock solid, too, with nothing goofy about the ergonimics...very basic/generic (though F-16 inspired) and work great for all sims that I use them for. I run many profiles with 8-10 analog axes (stick X/Y, throttle, pedals, toe brakes, two rotaries, mini stick X/Y) multiple modes for each button used with scripted virtual "shift" keys plus the actual "shift" button, plus the CH Multi Function Panel. Throw in the standard Throttle Quad which I use as levers to activate lever stuff (not for analog axes) and all of it's extra buttons, plus I have the Franken Potato mod on my Pro Throttle. I use these in combination with the Thrustmaster MFDs for study sims like Falcon 4, DCS, etc. CH is far from basic in every way except their ergonomics, where being basic is a virtue.

Just something to consider, out of fairness for what CH gear is really like.

EDIT: and to be clear, there are no lack of buttons...I couldn't begin to count all the buttons on the stick, throttle, Franken Potato, Throttle Quad, MFP...multiplied by 4 modes, and each with an option for shift... effectively endless. And physically, we're talking dozens upon dozens.

Since it has Franken potato then count me in. I will research it all.

:)

[wstephenson]

Hey fellow Woesters, I've started writing a joystick config guide: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700640555

Please give feedback :).

[Konil]

I just got the game and was able to map most of my X52 and pedals properly.

That said, I can't get pass the tutorial. It says "Press UNBOUND to Boost". I checked the keys and I can't find a button to boost and no input on my throttle gets me past this screen. The tutorial screen is showing me a Xbox pad, but no idea where this mysterious "boost" button is supposed to be.

thank you!

[Marauder Interactive]

Konil, sorry about that, I'm in the middle of changing the names to be more descriptive and I missed the tutorial. The command is called "digital throttle up" now, but you should be able to pass this part of the tutorial by just pushing your throttle to 100%.

I think it trips once you go past 290 for a second.

I'm gonna change the name again to have both words (Boost) Digital Throttle Up or something.

[Marauder Interactive]

wstephenson님이 먼저 게시:

Hey fellow Woesters, I've started writing a joystick config guide: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700640555

Please give feedback :).

Make a new thread for that and I'll pin it! <3

[Konil]

Thanks for the help! The digital throttle up worked, but the tutorial sequence its a bit unintuitive with it. Throttle up fully did not work as you mentioned, I had to press W on the Keyboard.

I finally got through the tutorial and now I'm stuck on mission selection screen. I imagine if I had a cursor, I would have to click on the first mission, but since I'm on joystick controls the cursor is invisible and I can't seem to figure out the keyboard navigation (Enter sends me to the pause menu).

[Marauder Interactive]

Try the solution here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/283160/discussions/0/350533172688099632/ and let me know if helps the galaxy map!

[Konil]

Thank you! that worked.

Now my main problem seems to be the Throttle, which only works on the last 10% of the top end, so I'm either on full boost or enigne idle.

Amazing job with the game, btw. Happy to help you guys iron out the kinks of joystick support!

[Donik]

Konil님이 먼저 게시:

Thank you! that worked.

Now my main problem seems to be the Throttle, which only works on the last 10% of the top end, so I'm either on full boost or enigne idle.

Amazing job with the game, btw. Happy to help you guys iron out the kinks of joystick support!

I have similiar throttle action to what you describe, but I would say I only see forward throttle at 98-100% full forward. However, if I slowly pull throttle all the way back to 0%, it scales down properly. Would you say you're seeing the same thing there? Also, I believe Mr. Mike Tipul is working on a correction for that.

[Goret]

Donik님이 먼저 게시:

Konil님이 먼저 게시:

Thank you! that worked.

Now my main problem seems to be the Throttle, which only works on the last 10% of the top end, so I'm either on full boost or enigne idle.

Amazing job with the game, btw. Happy to help you guys iron out the kinks of joystick support!

I have similiar throttle action to what you describe, but I would say I only see forward throttle at 98-100% full forward. However, if I slowly pull throttle all the way back to 0%, it scales down properly. Would you say you're seeing the same thing there? Also, I believe Mr. Mike Tipul is working on a correction for that.

I experience EXACTLY this with my X52 Pro. I tried messing around with the game's built-in calibration tool, trying different Zero positions and Sensitivity but didn't really help.

[wstephenson]

FWIW, I just tried to assign the analog throttle to my hotas throttle again in the current beta, and couldn't get the ship to move above speed of about 1 or 2, even after calibrating and setting the zero point of the axis.

I've been playing with the digital throttle controls on my pedals' toe brakes, and that works fine.