Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1

Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1

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Flowers_and_Dreams 2015 年 2 月 10 日 下午 11:37
The translation is terrible >.<;
I want to thank the localization devs for including language selection. A lot of companies are more than happy to nuke any Japanese from the product, so I definitely give credit for them for giving the option to the people who ponied up the cash to play it.

That said, I speak (but suck at reading) Japanese, so I can follow the dialogue more or less.

I wince at every text box that leaves out a huge chunk of the dialogue. Entire sentences are omitted, and it almost feels like a summarization. I'm curious why this is. It actually makes it hard to play when my eyes and my brain are parsing things differently. While I understand that I'm part of a small market (people who are so-so/okay at Japanese but like having subtitles to make sure everything is understood), I sort of feel like the English-only folks have been shortchanged in what they received, and the semi-literate like me are stuck with a jarring difference between what is heard and what is read. T~T

If people could provide any insight into what is going on with the translation, it would be really appreciated.

Again I am grateful to the devs for the improvement over the bad old days when localizations pulled their translation out of whole cloth and didn't even try, but I think we can do better nowadays.
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Radene 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 10:10 
引用自 UnLuckyCat
I think I stopped caring about the item flair when all it said was "Heals 1000 HP" in their description.

Disgaea had pretty good item jokes though

It did. But the prinnies (and Etna's treatment of them) will always be the main appeal of Disgaea to me.

Dood.
UnLuckyCat 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 10:17 
No way, didn't you hear? If you don't complete your item collection, read all the descriptions, and understand each reference, then you don't deserve to play the game.
Radene 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 10:20 
引用自 UnLuckyCat
No way, didn't you hear? If you don't complete your item collection, read all the descriptions, and understand each reference, then you don't deserve to play the game.

I laugh in the face of pretention and dogmatism!

Ah-haha! Ha! Haha-haha!
LordAziki 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 10:57 
引用自 Purple Sister
引用自 Radene

Because I hate you and everything you stand for, and want to taint your hallowed halls with my impure corruption in hopes of turning you away from the truth, obviously.

I'm basically Satan.


...wait, you wanted a SERIOUS answer? Well ask me a serious question then.

Enjoy being clueless then, casual.
Nobody's stopping you for being totally uninformed and clueless about the game you're playing.

Hey, what's this game about again? Oh right it's about hamburgers!
Who even cares what this game about anyways right xD, not like we won't skip every dialogues anyways!
It is the boring story of the game industry fighting against piracy made more interesting by using anthropomorphic consoles to represent SEGA, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo the personification of piracy in games named after an R4DS card. Even if I didn't know what it was about, it would be just as enjoyable. I like it for being a cute and relaxing game with references to some games I played when I was a child. I don't really care as much about the symbolism as I do about the way the story is told.

And as far as calling other people casual, this is a JRPG. Since some of the first games made in Japan were visual novels, JRPGs tend to be heavy on dialogue and cutscenes. If you just focus on completing the game, half of it is a static VN. I don't see any rogue-like permadeath or danmaku style bosses or any benefit to having especially good reflexes. There isn't even a competative leaderboard or PvP combat. People who want this kind of game want something casual. And if you really want to talk down to people for being casual, at least put Battletoads in your NES or SEGA Genesis and beat the Dark Queen without using any of the hidden warps or cheats. Battletoads is a part of my childhood that will make Dark Souls fanboys cry.
phadin 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 LordAziki
引用自 Purple Sister

Enjoy being clueless then, casual.
Nobody's stopping you for being totally uninformed and clueless about the game you're playing.

Hey, what's this game about again? Oh right it's about hamburgers!
Who even cares what this game about anyways right xD, not like we won't skip every dialogues anyways!
It is the boring story of the game industry fighting against piracy made more interesting by using anthropomorphic consoles to represent SEGA, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo the personification of piracy in games named after an R4DS card. Even if I didn't know what it was about, it would be just as enjoyable. I like it for being a cute and relaxing game with references to some games I played when I was a child. I don't really care as much about the symbolism as I do about the way the story is told.

And as far as calling other people casual, this is a JRPG. Since some of the first games made in Japan were visual novels, JRPGs tend to be heavy on dialogue and cutscenes. If you just focus on completing the game, half of it is a static VN. I don't see any rogue-like permadeath or danmaku style bosses or any benefit to having especially good reflexes. There isn't even a competative leaderboard or PvP combat. People who want this kind of game want something casual. And if you really want to talk down to people for being casual, at least put Battletoads in your NES or SEGA Genesis and beat the Dark Queen without using any of the hidden warps or cheats. Battletoads is a part of my childhood that will make Dark Souls fanboys cry.


Better idea. Pick up Vulture for Nethack off of Steam and try to Ascend legitimately without using something like Discovery Mode or Wizard Mode. A game does not need to require twitch reflexes to be aggonizingly hardcore.

And for those that don't know, Nethack is the direct descendent of Rogue, even to the point of using the same underlying combat equations, as well as the storyline lore like the Amulet of Yendor as the primary objective. All those rogue-likes? This is where they came from.
kak 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 11:38 
Sometimes i wonder why do even people play games they have no interests in, so much that they don't care about more than half of what the game is offering, and so much that they disregard completely the point of the game. And outright calling it boring.

Maybe people just want to be completely braindead and just have fun about something they have no idea about.


I bet they don't even know about the two enemies that represents xbox fanboys and nintendo fanboys and think they're just some kind of silly monsters.
Or about the name puns of the characters that makes fun of fanboys.
Or about the quest descriptions that parodies anime and games and internet cultures.

:^)
最后由 kak 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 12 日 上午 11:47
UnLuckyCat 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 12:03 
You don't know Neptune like I know Neptune!!
Radene 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 1:32 
Maybe people just want to be completely braindead and just have fun about something they have no idea about.

You're right! And you know what?

I'm doing it because I love you. See...I know that you're a bitter and unhappy person, and the only way that you'll ever feel even a semblance of happines is to find someone that you can feel "better" than.

Thing is...since your mind operates on such a low level of "life", I do have to make myself literally brain dead to be worse than you...if only just barely.

You're really making it difficult, you know!

But it's a sacrifice I will make! After all, even insecure, self-absorbed, bitter and generally undesirable people like you deserve to feel happy now and then.

So please, go on. Keep bashing me. Keep feeling superior. Keep trolling. Because, once you leave that screen, once you walk into that thing called "life"....it's all dog-eat-dog. Nobody cares about you. Nobody gives a damn how you feel. You only have yourself to rely on.

So enjoy this while it lasts, because, when the push comes to shove, I will be there. And I will haunt you.

*AHEM*

Awesome; test successful, this is totally going into my novel.

(I always wanted to do this)
KaioShin 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 2:12 
This is a cheap budget game, commercialized as all heck and it's basically just a goofy spoof, and people get their panties in a bunch of someone possibly not appreciating all it's intricacies enough? Oh my god. Just wow. Anytime you think the internet can't sink any lower...
Radene 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 2:23 
引用自 KaioShin
This is a cheap budget game, commercialized as all heck and it's basically just a goofy spoof, and people get their panties in a bunch of someone possibly not appreciating all it's intricacies enough? Oh my god. Just wow. Anytime you think the internet can't sink any lower...

...it does, just to prove you wrong. Indeed.

But it's the internet you know? It's a platform for everyone, and history teaches us that those who have nothing to say always talk the most.
kak 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:47 
It's ok. Nobody blames you for being clueless about your world.
You're a special kid anyways.
Radene 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 7:04 
引用自 Purple Sister
It's ok. Nobody blames you for being clueless about your world.
You're a special kid anyways.

Indeed, I'm so special I go to SPECIAL classes. So yeah, go stick your ORDINARY classes somewhere, cause I'M DA BOMB!

You know...you can't win this. I'm willing to bet money I've been doing this kind of forum shenanigans for longer than you've been alive (which, incidentally, makes me go "Holy ♥♥♥♥, it's that long since those years already?")

There's NOTHING you can throw at me that would faze me. So go on. Keep trying. I'll feed on your feeble attempts to become relevant.

(Except when I need my beauty sleep. Guess I'll have to allow you free reign then. Sleep is important and all.)
最后由 Radene 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 7:17
Spectre 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 7:06 
I have to agree. I've been playing the game in Japanese because I'm not fond of how 'dubbed' he dub is (you know what I mean) and even my basic level of Japanese is enough to pick up on the vast amount of changes/omissions, which is enough to rip me right out of the immersion of the game.

Just as the game has the option to change the vocal track, I think it needs to options to change the translation track as well, between the modified 'dubtitle' track and a literal translation. It's not like anyone playing a game like this is going to be greatly confused by Japanisms (this isn't exactly a mainstream game...)
UnLuckyCat 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 7:56 
Well if they do release a JP text option, it'd make a fan translation patch mod hack thing a bit easier to do.

I wonder if enough people would care enough to do such a thing.
Scyris 2015 年 2 月 12 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 Saladien
an updated translation would be great

Maybe fans will hack the game to make it modable, and then do a proper translation, I notice fan translations tend to be better than offical ones, since they leave all the orignal jokes in, sometimes add annoitations explaining them (seen a few fan visual novel translations do this when the joke comes up).

But yeah, for the most part alot of stuff is lost in translation, its especally bad in the neptunia games because alot of the inside jokes aren't translated or if they are, are completly diffrent. Which is silly when this game bascally targets fans of japanese games and such.
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