The water system

[VongolaXth]

I was about to purchase it right now but remembered there was something "bad" .. How "BAD" is that water system? I don't want to feel forced to play it daily for hours just to have my stash. How long can you take a break and how long does it take to get the water supply back to max / to be able to not feel forced to play every day?

[Chibbity]

1 water = 1 real day.

You can store 55 water base, and more with upgrades.

Water is easy to find, and quests reward it; I have about 10 hours played and like 28 days of water already (And i havent even been grabbing every water I've found.) You could easily play for a couple of hours and have enough water for atleast a week; if not more.

[VongolaXth]

Ah ok, that sounds fair. Why are people complaining about it then? Or was it changed already? I thought I needed to play daily for hours every day to keep it up haha. This sounds ok. Thanks!

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

Ah ok, that sounds fair. Why are people complaining about it then? Or was it changed already? I thought I needed to play daily for hours every day to keep it up haha. This sounds ok. Thanks!

Most complainers fall into one of two groups:

Group A: Hasn't played the game and doesn't own it, has no idea how water actually works; is basing their opinion off of wild rumors and other complainers.

Group B: Owns the game, plays the game, understands water is easy to get; is upset based on "the principle" of the thing. Ie. "I know it doesn't actually matter but it shouldn't be this way."

[Ghost]

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

I was about to purchase it right now but remembered there was something "bad" .. How "BAD" is that water system? I don't want to feel forced to play it daily for hours just to have my stash. How long can you take a break and how long does it take to get the water supply back to max / to be able to not feel forced to play every day?

you can farm 1 to 8 water in 3mins without any risk, Saying the water maintance system is bad is not true, it's just people are pissed that they need water to get there traders and because they don't want to play the game. So people want to play the game but there trying so hard to get it changed in there favor so the games not dificult and they don't lose all there proggress.

[Ghost]

depending on the rig ofcourse

[Iron Horse]

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

Ah ok, that sounds fair. Why are people complaining about it then? Or was it changed already? I thought I needed to play daily for hours every day to keep it up haha. This sounds ok. Thanks!

The defenders of this abysmal system keep repeating the same BS day in and day out.

I'd suggest you take a look around at the opposite side first, because these waterheads consistently lie about those against the system being in place and rush to defend it for some asinine reason.

I myself have explained why this system is bad like 2 dozen times and am quite sick of repeating myself. So hopefully you do your due diligence and look around. Or someone with a few brain cells drops in to explain it.

The TL;DR of it is, for a studio professing to hate FOMO "modern game industry" practices, they then add a feature that's essentially FOMO-lite and think that's okay.

Doesn't matter how easy or difficult it is, difficulty was never the main concern.

Good luck to you.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

Ah ok, that sounds fair. Why are people complaining about it then? Or was it changed already? I thought I needed to play daily for hours every day to keep it up haha. This sounds ok. Thanks!

The defenders of this abysmal system keep repeating the same BS day in and day out.

I'd suggest you take a look around at the opposite side first, because these waterheads consistently lie about those against the system being in place and rush to defend it for some asinine reason.

I myself have explained why this system is bad like 2 dozen times and am quite sick of repeating myself. So hopefully you do your due diligence and look around. Or someone with a few brain cells drops in to explain it.

The TL;DR of it is, for a studio professing to hate FOMO "modern game industry" practices, they then add a feature that's essentially FOMO-lite and think that's okay.

Doesn't matter how easy or difficult it is, difficulty was never the main concern.

Good luck to you.

My guy most rigs have 1 large slot, you can easily pickup 1 water while also farming, and some rigs have 3 to more and you can dedicate 1 run to get 8 days of water in 4 to 5mins. there is no debate, there is no disrespect. people simply put don't want to play the game how it was intended.

[GodShake]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

I was about to purchase it right now but remembered there was something "bad" .. How "BAD" is that water system? I don't want to feel forced to play it daily for hours just to have my stash. How long can you take a break and how long does it take to get the water supply back to max / to be able to not feel forced to play every day?

you can farm 1 to 8 water in 3mins without any risk, Saying the water maintance system is bad is not true, it's just people are pissed that they need water to get there traders and because they don't want to play the game. So people want to play the game but there trying so hard to get it changed in there favor so the games not dificult and they don't lose all there proggress.

so the water system is good because its so easy to find? the problem is that you cant take a break from the game if the water gets consumed when offline.

how is that fun that after taking a break I have to just launch the game every now and then and find water so I can continue my normal life?

If the water is so easy to find what is the point of finding it? It would be better if water was harder to find but is not consumed when offline.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by GodShake:

Group A.^

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

Doesn't matter how easy or difficult it is, difficulty was never the main concern.

Group B.^

[Baphomeat]

I've put in 10 hours of actual play (left the game on after going to bed and through work the next day... that's why I have 30... me stoopd) and got 55 water in my bank and another 20 in my storage.

Water.
Is.
Not.
A.
Problem.

To all the people who continue to cry about it... stop it... literally playing the game normally has banked me over 2 months of time off the game and while I continue to play it I will continue to get more water. Eventually at the rate i'm going in about 30 hours of play I will have over 1 year of total water banked.

The only 'complaint' I understand is 'If it's so easy why have it in the game'. Just kind of feels like the copped out a little bit on the water. Frankly I don't mind the system overall it's just not actually a hinderance or threat.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

Originally posted by VongolaXth:

Ah ok, that sounds fair. Why are people complaining about it then? Or was it changed already? I thought I needed to play daily for hours every day to keep it up haha. This sounds ok. Thanks!

The defenders of this abysmal system keep repeating the same BS day in and day out.

I'd suggest you take a look around at the opposite side first, because these waterheads consistently lie about those against the system being in place and rush to defend it for some asinine reason.

I myself have explained why this system is bad like 2 dozen times and am quite sick of repeating myself. So hopefully you do your due diligence and look around. Or someone with a few brain cells drops in to explain it.

The TL;DR of it is, for a studio professing to hate FOMO "modern game industry" practices, they then add a feature that's essentially FOMO-lite and think that's okay.

Doesn't matter how easy or difficult it is, difficulty was never the main concern.

Good luck to you.

you played 25mins in the past few days and you're still here in the general discussions when you could be playing the game and getting a few things of water for proggression. 25mins of gameplay in the past few days, if you can't play the game then why cause a uproar because you chose to buy a game in early access while also disliking the main gameplay mechanic that resets your save except your character exp.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by ECHOxxONE:

The overall idea/mechanic of the water system

Group B.^

[Iron Horse]

See? Told you exactly how the defenders would respond.

It's textbook at this point.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by GodShake:

Originally posted by Ghost:

you can farm 1 to 8 water in 3mins without any risk, Saying the water maintance system is bad is not true, it's just people are pissed that they need water to get there traders and because they don't want to play the game. So people want to play the game but there trying so hard to get it changed in there favor so the games not dificult and they don't lose all there proggress.

so the water system is good because its so easy to find? the problem is that you cant take a break from the game if the water gets consumed when offline. how is that fun that after taking a break I have to just launch the game and find water and then quit the game so I can continue my normal life? If the water is so easy to find what is the point of finding it? It would be better if water was harder to find but is not consumed when offline.

i have 68 days of water and 60 jugs of water stored, water isn't hard to get if you play smart, i wouldn't say it's easy to get unless you know the routes and learn the game. the problem lies with the player base not wanting to play the game, because a break and hiatus is 2 completely different things entirely. i could take a week off of this game for updates and be fine but any more then that then it's hiatus, and if you plan to not play the game then you should start fresh because you want a fresh time playing the game. The game is meant to be played with friends, water isn't hard to get with friends and it's not exactly easy to get, it depends on how you go about with how you play. If it's hard for you and easy for me then it just simply puts us in different paths. The main focus should be bugs, fixes for immortal enemies and weapon/enemy rebalancing. but everyone doesn't wanna play the game because of the water system.

[Ghost]

I have 240 water total now? I don't bother picking it up. The only issue for me is remembering to add some later on