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The Forever Winter

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Neon 2024年9月29日 7時39分
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Secret about the water mechanic
If you've got time to make posts and reply in a game forum for a game you don't even own or play you've got plenty of time to get water.

Are we really expected to believe these terminally online people who have time and energy to complain about a video game they don't even play or own are somehow also too busy to play said game on a semi-regular basis?

bUt iTs tHe pRiNcIpLe oF iT
It's a video game my guy. Touch grass.
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BorisHab Mikrofon,kann reden の投稿を引用:
My Suggestion: Add a Sleep timer, so that when i dont play the game for 3 days, my account automatically goes into Hibernation and i dont loose any water.

This would solve a lot. :)
I am slightly concerned about the water issue. I don't necessarily think playing habitually is a way to solve the problem. I think there are better ways to keep the community engaged, rather than forcing them to play consistently through an in game mechanic. As an adhd gamer, I can't even remember to collect my loot in tarkov within the 24 hour insurance time frame. I have only played a few wipes because I hate having to restart from nothing repeatedly. I love the concept and style of the game, but all of my other hobbies involve me being offline for 1-2 weeks, so it would be cool to not have to stress about it. I will pick the game up fairly soon in hopes that it is either changed or a more relaxed mode is added.
Shiro 2024年9月29日 13時22分 
LittleFatKid の投稿を引用:
??? What punishment? this is a PVE game, with it's ENDGAME NONEXISTENT. You guys forget this is not rust, or tarkov, or whatever shooter your thinking off. It's not like you stop and uninstall rust, just because someone wiped your base in a server???

Clearly none of you played games that have "IRL timer mechanic", look at the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ARK... on a 1x server, to tame a lvl 150 Giga, using shmeat, it takes around 2 ♥♥♥♥♥♥ IRL DAYS! yet there are even pletra of YT'bers dedicated to it...

The character experience, and their prestige SATAY. If you are unable to log into a game for 55 days, you lose JUST THE INVENTORY, and VENDORS! Were else would you lose your stuff? What will you do with your 900 AK's and 600 LMG's and 1000000 ammo???
Nothing, you will stop playing, get wiped, and come back when you want to PLAY THE GAME AGAIN!

My blood pressure is rising from reading this retardation... God i wish i could find a word so insulting that you would LEAVE THE STEAM PLATFORM COMMUNITY FOREVER!

ARK can be played as a single player game or with friends making local server. A SP/coop game like TFW. Doing this, you can turn the base degradation off as well as tweak the timers on taming, basically no wipe.

Would you support the offline water drain being a toggle?
I seethe about the water mechanic because I can. If I buy the game, I collect water because I'm forced to. Easy rebuttal, gg.
War Wizard Grymzst の投稿を引用:
*sips my tea*

Sorry.. what were you saying?

Seriously, though. The issue is not GETTING the water. The issue is the OFFLINE REAL WORLD TIMER.

That is LITERALLY it. PERIOD. Get rid of the offline timer ONLY, and watch the posts evaporate.

Well then you not doing something right, I have 54 water stored at my Innards and another 8 in stash. only have a total of 22 hours played.

55 Water, that almost 2 entire months I can go with out playing the game.

Just sayin....
Neon の投稿を引用:
If you've got time to make posts and reply in a game forum for a game you don't even own or play you've got plenty of time to get water.

Are we really expected to believe these terminally online people who have time and energy to complain about a video game they don't even play or own are somehow also too busy to play said game on a semi-regular basis?

bUt iTs tHe pRiNcIpLe oF iT
It's a video game my guy. Touch grass.

you need the people with jobs (that means money) to keep the game alive.
This game is in no way is good enough to leech actual numbers of paying -"no job"- gamer from Mmos and ARK.

So they need to cater to people that just hop on for a raid or two so that those will buy the game / future paid content / extensions
Palenor の投稿を引用:
War Wizard Grymzst の投稿を引用:
*sips my tea*

Sorry.. what were you saying?

Seriously, though. The issue is not GETTING the water. The issue is the OFFLINE REAL WORLD TIMER.

That is LITERALLY it. PERIOD. Get rid of the offline timer ONLY, and watch the posts evaporate.

Well then you not doing something right, I have 54 water stored at my Innards and another 8 in stash. only have a total of 22 hours played.

55 Water, that almost 2 entire months I can go with out playing the game.

Just sayin....

Do you think the majority of folks will research this? Or will just pass the game by?
Rauchsauger の投稿を引用:
you need the people with jobs (that means money) to keep the game alive.
This game is in no way is good enough to leech actual numbers of paying -"no job"- gamer from Mmos and ARK.

So they need to cater to people that just hop on for a raid or two so that those will buy the game / future paid content / extensions

Imagine thinking you can't be an adult, have a job; and still make time for hobbies.
BorisHab Mikrofon,kann reden の投稿を引用:
Well the annoying thing is for players like me who might stop playing for 1 week or 2-3 weeks and then loose (almost) everything. Now i have to hoard and stash water and look for water during my missions, instead of searching other stuff, trying to kill a tank, go on games with my friends, doing quests etc.
I am forced to do 1 certain activity in the game simply because of this mechanic.
Imagine playing Battlefield with the same mechanic to keep your loadout and progress. Then you stop playing and you loose your unlocked weapons. in Order to keep your progress you have to play a PVE COOP round everytime before you play the real Battlefield online to keep your progress (obviously not a perfect comparison, but you get the point)

My Suggestion: Add a Sleep timer, so that when i dont play the game for 3 days, my account automatically goes into Hibernation and i dont loose any water.

Besides all that, My Question is: What does the Water system add to the game? How does it make this Game a better game?
You do realize that you can do quests and treat Water as a side quest right?
The issue to me is the devs made it a huge point that they hate modern game design and stuff like FOMO mechanics. What does this say about future growth of the game going forward?
Vashyo 2024年9月29日 13時57分 
I want to buy the game, just not as long as I get punished by losing everything, when I step away from the game for a relatively long time. Lot of the guys defending this, only do it now. But once they finally get tired, they also will lose everything and once they come back in an year to see what is new in a big update, they have to start over.

Its kinda ironic that the devs lambasted the industry for FOMO mechanics, but they add a mechanic that dictates you must play or you lose your progress.
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Neon 2024年9月29日 14時00分 
Sausagetalk の投稿を引用:
The issue to me is the devs made it a huge point that they hate modern game design and stuff like FOMO mechanics. What does this say about future growth of the game going forward?

There's no monetization or seasonal mechanics, therefore no FOMO. I don't think you know what FOMO means, is it just a trendy word you heard somewhere and now you throw it around at anything you don't like?
Neon 2024年9月29日 14時01分 
Vashyo の投稿を引用:
I want to buy the game, just not as long as I get punished by losing everything, when I step away from the game for a relatively long time. Lot of the guys defending this, only do it now. But once they finally get tired, they also will lose everything and once they come back in an year to see what is new in a big update, they have to start over.

Its kinda funny that the devs lambasted the industry for FOMO mechanics, but they add a mechanic that dictates you must play or you lose your progress.

FOMO by definition refers to a game gatekeeping content behind a seasonal or timegate so that if you miss it you can never get it again. There's nothing like that in this game.
Neon 2024年9月29日 14時02分 
For anyone who missed it FOMO is all the content in Destiny you can never play because you missed the season or all the cosmetics in Fortnight you can never have because you missed them. There's none of that in this game.
Just wanted to point out you kind of contradict yourself in your OP.

You tell all of these "terminally online people" with no time to all go touch grass, but also say they need to stop wasting time complaining about a mechanic that requires a modicum of grinding and go grind.

So what is it these supposed bad people should go do? Should they get up and leave their computers to go "touch grass" or should they keep sitting and grinding for something they don't enjoy.
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