The Forever Winter

The Forever Winter

SpaceWalrus Sep 28, 2024 @ 11:32am
SCAR issue
I don't understand why 50 cal SCAR has only 200 base damage. It's less then RPK, SVD or even upgraded M4 and AK-74. What's the point of this gun? It's semi-auto, it has only 8 round stock magazine, it can not be supressed (i'm not sure because i didn't try all attachments yet). It should have at least 400 damage since SVD has 300 to be playable. Same goes for .308 guns which have 175 base damage but much higher recoil than 5.45 or 5.56 which can be boosted to 200+ dmg easily but MG-34 doesn't have any option to hit harder for example. I hope it would be rebalanced soon because for now it doesn;t make any sense.
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zpc Sep 28, 2024 @ 11:34am 
I already wrote it somewhere else - pretty much all the heavy rifles aren't really worth it [yet]. They either have way too low damage (like you wrote it) or are missing some crit buff. I too wanted to use the SCAR on my Old Man character - but it's really awful. Having a shotgun gets better results. Even the bigger drum mag doesn't help :steamsad:
voloeb100500 Sep 28, 2024 @ 11:35am 
Everything is mostly a placeholder. Look at the name of attachments for example: Barrel attachment A,B etc with no meaningful explanation
SpaceWalrus Sep 28, 2024 @ 11:39am 
I suppose they did it to balance the AI which use these guns but common it's the worst possible way to do it.
Bacon & Eggs Sep 28, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
I personally don't use them but you may need to mod the SCAR to make it worth. For example, you can mod the barrel on the regular AK to have similar damage to the RPK.
ThaRickestRick Oct 1, 2024 @ 1:30am 
I have to disagree. Yes it should have a bit more base damage but its not terribly hard to find the drum mag which holds 50 rnds and it seems to have a lot more stun/armor piercing. I lay waste to entire platoons with it. Just finished a match with 71 kills and at least 10 were HK troopers. When fighting europa troops its easy to keep ammo. Brought in 200 rnds plus 50 in the mag and left the match after 71 kills with 180 rnds. It also does 212.5 damage with the D barrel on it and has solid recoil. I also notice a close range it seems to single shot (headshots) enemies that aren't you're armored "major" classes. With the 8 rnds mag, I wouldn't use it but with a drum its golden.
Last edited by ThaRickestRick; Oct 1, 2024 @ 1:30am
aleos Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:05am 
the scar is crazy, it staggers HKs and has such a high headshot multiplier that you can one tap a lot of the base enemies. the initial mag is bad, but once u get attachments and mag b or c, you wont need to crouch walk anymore.
Valhalla Awaits Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:26am 
Originally posted by SpaceWalrus:
I don't understand why 50 cal SCAR has only 200 base damage. It's less then RPK, SVD or even upgraded M4 and AK-74. What's the point of this gun? It's semi-auto, it has only 8 round stock magazine, it can not be supressed (i'm not sure because i didn't try all attachments yet). It should have at least 400 damage since SVD has 300 to be playable. Same goes for .308 guns which have 175 base damage but much higher recoil than 5.45 or 5.56 which can be boosted to 200+ dmg easily but MG-34 doesn't have any option to hit harder for example. I hope it would be rebalanced soon because for now it doesn;t make any sense.

None of the weapons are balanced whatsoever currently, making many of them brokenly underpowered or useless. Currently the only viable weapons are automatics with high firerates and large magazines. AKM for rifles is best, SAW is currently the best gun in the game (If your playing a character than can use/unlock LMGs), I'm not sure which smg is best, as I don't use them.

I will say the 20mm anti-tank rifle is pretty good at one-shotting most small mobs, but a automatic can do it in a quick burst just as easily, then mow down his 10 buddies all before you let go of the trigger, and still have ammo to spare.
Last edited by Valhalla Awaits; Oct 1, 2024 @ 2:28am
Squilliam Oct 12, 2024 @ 3:49am 
In case you haven't found out elsewhere the scar can be full auto I believe it has to do with what barrel you use. Also the scar has a barrel with an integrated suppressor while the suppressor on it is currently bugged eventually when fixed you can run a full auto scar with 50 round mag and suppressed
dgresevfan Oct 12, 2024 @ 4:40am 
The 8 round magazine is the real issue here.
Grim@FU_BARRACUDA Oct 12, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Welcome to "The weird Ways of Gamers and Developers". We never have and never will understand it fully, but one thing is sure, it wont change any time soon ;-)

(Weird Placeholders in Early Access Games ...)
Last edited by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA; Oct 12, 2024 @ 1:33pm
Bacon & Eggs Oct 12, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by dgresevfan:
The 8 round magazine is the real issue here.
just use the gun and level it up to get a bigger mag
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Date Posted: Sep 28, 2024 @ 11:32am
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