Is water still a mechanic?

[Terra Blade]

I am interested in the game but a lot of reviews are talking about what seems like the most brain dead mechanic where if you don't constantly play your characters can get wiped because real time passes. I have a lot of games in my library, and I play what I feel like playing not based on real world timers unless it's an actual MMO, and this doesn't seem like it's an MMO.

Has there been talk to changing this water mechanic to in game time or just removing it? Because real life timers for progress deletion is flat out a deal breaker for me.

[ChargerRex]

The water mechanic is staying and tbh people blow it way out of proportion, it's really easy to get over a weeks worth of water for playing an hour or two. On top of that it's only loot and reputation that gets wiped not character XP which means you can easily get back what you lost. Next to that they implemented water thieves which only spawn in your base when you run out, so you can have a last stand chance to keep your loot and keep going.

[Wilihey]

Originally posted by ChargerRex:

The water mechanic is staying and tbh people blow it way out of proportion, it's really easy to get over a weeks worth of water for playing an hour or two. On top of that it's only loot and reputation that gets wiped not character XP which means you can easily get back what you lost. Next to that they implemented water thieves which only spawn in your base when you run out, so you can have a last stand chance to keep your loot and keep going.

how do you get water in this game, i never found any in the time i played before refunding, and i just couldnt handle the ai spawn system i thought it was horrendous and made the whole concept of sneaking around useless because they could just spawn infront of behind you and you couldnt do anything
around release there were guides about how to get water but i dont see the point in looking at guides when playing games, is it actually that easy or is it a spot you have to know about, in about 10 raids i barely found anything useful and would extract full of junk cause the bots and environment wouldnt spawn anything worthwhile

[Sleepy]

Originally posted by Wilihey:

how do you get water in this game, i never found any in the time i played before refunding, and i just couldnt handle the ai spawn system i thought it was horrendous and made the whole concept of sneaking around useless because they could just spawn infront of behind you and you couldnt do anything
around release there were guides about how to get water but i dont see the point in looking at guides when playing games, is it actually that easy or is it a spot you have to know about, in about 10 raids i barely found anything useful and would extract full of junk cause the bots and environment wouldnt spawn anything worthwhile

Getting water is basically just memorizing the few spots on each map that it spawns and then routing between those sports before extracting.

It's very boring to farm.

Fundamentally it makes an obligation out of regularly doing the most boring thing in the game as real life upkeep.

[Xunmyr]

Devs are working on what they call water 2.0. They haven't mentioned whether or not they're going to remove the real time decay. They implemented "water thieves" which is supposed to be a way to avoid a base wipe, but a lot of the feedback I read makes it sound like you don't really stand a chance, considering it's about 10 kitted out NPCs and can be extremely laggy.

To avoid the water thieves while you're away playing other games, you'll either need to leave the game installed and taking up space on your hard drive or remove and install it as needed so you can login to babysit your water supply and transfer water from your stash to your supply as it drains in real time. The supply only lets you store about 2-3 months of water at a time, but you can grind 100s of barrels if you wanted and keep those in your stash.

The only other option is to mod or hack your game so you have infinite water.

[Terra Blade]

Sounds like I should just wait for this 2.0 stuff. I am used to losing hours of progress in games like Outpost Infinity Siege, but that's usually because I screwed up. Wasn't because I didn't dedicate time to grinding a resource for when I am not playing the game.

I like extraction games, but this doesn't feel like a good fit in its current state.

[Benlandia]

The mechanic is really stupid. I had a lot of fun playing the game and ran out of gameplay pretty soon. I waited 30 days to come back and the new 1.2 water mechanic after running out to safe your progress is so stupid. I got 30 rounds of AK ammo and 12 rounds of 12 GA. Immediately with 2 shots and lost my progress. Instantly erased my progress because I have a real life and don't want to farm water for a beta game.

[Xunmyr]

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

Sounds like I should just wait for this 2.0 stuff. I am used to losing hours of progress in games like Outpost Infinity Siege, but that's usually because I screwed up. Wasn't because I didn't dedicate time to grinding a resource for when I am not playing the game.

I like extraction games, but this doesn't feel like a good fit in its current state.

Yep. The way the mechanic is currently setup, it only punishes inactive players instead of incentivizing people to play. The whole "keep playing our game or we'll try and wipe your base." Like others have mentioned, the water system fails to achieve what it was designed to do, which is an attempt to pressure players and induce anxiety as the devs say. However, when gathering water takes no effort and you can stockpile it in your stash, it quickly renders the whole system pointless.

I play a few core games and rotate a variety, so I uninstall stuff to make space since a lot of games are 100 GB. At any time, I can return to any of those games and pickup exactly where I left off. The same can't be said for TFW if you don't stay topped off and get raided.

[🍨S̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ Maid Marine]

Originally posted by Wilihey:

how do you get water in this game, i never found any in the time i played before refunding,

Easiest way is from repeatable quests, two explosives for two water, some are just recon extract from this map 1 = day of water , so you don't need to actually loot it persay but you can if really want

so for new players, prioritise lockboxes / gatcha over water for the income and vendor rep bonus

[Lord-Captain Mikorius]

It's still here, but you can mod it out for the most part.

[Goompas]

Yes it is still in game. That's why it is 500 ppl online.

[Alfro]

Just uninstalled, because of this , and the AI and............ May come back if they try to fix any of it .

[bertpigeon]

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

I am interested in the game but a lot of reviews are talking about what seems like the most brain dead mechanic where if you don't constantly play your characters can get wiped because real time passes. I have a lot of games in my library, and I play what I feel like playing not based on real world timers unless it's an actual MMO, and this doesn't seem like it's an MMO.

Has there been talk to changing this water mechanic to in game time or just removing it? Because real life timers for progress deletion is flat out a deal breaker for me.

After trying the demo a few times water isn't a major issue.
Its the entire rest of it haha.

It needs more time in the oven.

Ai is bad, animation is bad, frame rate is bad (though that might be down to my crap GPU) ai spawns feel off and everything seems aimed at you despite you not being the guy, but worst thing is movement mechanics. They feel horrible.

Eg you can't sprint and strafe at the same time like most fps and third person games. When you sprint your A and D keys get locked and it feels horrible.

To be fair i'm coming from games like Darktide and Titanfall 2 that spoil you with great movement. Even on low setting mouse movement feel stuttery. So you need a strong computer as its really not optimised at all.

BUT the world is crazy detailed and looks great when you take pictures. And the idea/theme is great too.

It just need a lot more time.

[[BLK] Telu]

Yep, it is still a mechanic, no update from the devs since a while.

[KILLER]

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

I am interested in the game but a lot of reviews are talking about what seems like the most brain dead mechanic where if you don't constantly play your characters can get wiped because real time passes. I have a lot of games in my library, and I play what I feel like playing not based on real world timers unless it's an actual MMO, and this doesn't seem like it's an MMO.

Has there been talk to changing this water mechanic to in game time or just removing it? Because real life timers for progress deletion is flat out a deal breaker for me.

In my 1° h of play i take 9 days of water.

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[Xunmyr]

Originally posted by disi-3000:

Originally posted by Terra Blade:

I am interested in the game but a lot of reviews are talking about what seems like the most brain dead mechanic where if you don't constantly play your characters can get wiped because real time passes. I have a lot of games in my library, and I play what I feel like playing not based on real world timers unless it's an actual MMO, and this doesn't seem like it's an MMO.

Has there been talk to changing this water mechanic to in game time or just removing it? Because real life timers for progress deletion is flat out a deal breaker for me.

In my 1° h of play i take 9 days of water.

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Ok. I have 500 water. So what? The system is still ♥♥♥♥ and doesn't provide any meaningful game play, besides bringing back more water to stockpile for...what reason exactly?