Europan are good guys

[mie001]

Just admit it, dev, it isn't so hard. I know you want to create a theme that a forever war is happening and civilians are suffering but picturing one of the sides as good guys aren't helping
Eurasia converge it's civilian into zombie cyborg, Euruska have toothy mech. What did Europan do?" Using out-dated tech to fight a defensive war", come on man, they gotta have something more sinister than corpse tank, otherwise just print a "we are good guys" on their helmet

[Tryveliek]

The more I think about all this, the more I'm inclined to think that Eurasia is what's really tipping the scale here.

Euruska, fielding mostly faceless powered armoured heavy infantry, is always going to be harder to humanise than a bunch of guys in Vietnam era uniforms, but everything Eurasia fields is just so eldritch horror coded that it's impossible to ignore.

Their most common troops are cannon fodder cyber lobotomised dissidents, their "normal" troops look like a cross between Culexus Temple assassins and Terminators, their drones look like rotting sacks of meat held together with electrical cables and any map they take over turns into a corpse-filled ashen hellscape with heavy fog and no daylight.

All that is just the upfront vibes. The various text descriptions of how their internal politics and military structure works just adds more fuel to the fire.

Side note: I swear Eurasian drones aggro and shoot at me way more quickly than Europan ones, no matter my faction standing.

[mie001]

Originally posted by Tryveliek:

The more I think about all this, the more I'm inclined to think that Eurasia is what's really tipping the scale here.

Euruska, fielding mostly faceless powered armoured heavy infantry, is always going to be harder to humanise than a bunch of guys in Vietnam era uniforms, but everything Eurasia fields is just so eldritch horror coded that it's impossible to ignore.

Their most common troops are cannon fodder cyber lobotomised dissidents, their "normal" troops look like a cross between Culexus Temple assassins and Terminators, their drones look like rotting sacks of meat held together with electrical cables and any map they take over turns into a corpse-filled ashen hellscape with heavy fog and no daylight.

All that is just the upfront vibes. The various text descriptions of how their internal politics and military structure works just adds more fuel to the fire.

Side note: I swear Eurasian drones aggro and shoot at me way more quickly than Europan ones, no matter my faction standing.

This. Also there's early concept art showing one of the Eurasia drone trying to grab a scavs away while his teammate shooting it to save his ass, so that's why they looks like mutated insect

[Sareseras]

The only thing that matters is being part of Europan so the DommyMommys are a target to smash

[arrogantandaflame]

Originally posted by Tryveliek:

Side note: I swear Eurasian drones aggro and shoot at me way more quickly than Europan ones, no matter my faction standing.

it's the threat level, i think they have a natural threat level equal to the infantry of the europans. despite being able to fly, they are also somewhat squishier.

[Enrlich Hartman]

That sounds straight out of someone who dont read the mission descriptions, They literally do warcrimes and you have to fight them to freed civilians.
Or when they use their tech to brainwash-scan their prisoners ?

[chaosguy]

I don't see why there can't be bad guys and worse guys. 'Everyone is the same' is boring.

[SickJoe]

Even the Europan cannibalism is forgivable in this world...you got time and safe spots to farm in do ya? The cows are gettin moved around with balloons, Europan infrastructure is down to balloons. No wonder they started eatin each other. :D

Maybe as the backstory develops we'll see that they did some heinous ♥♥♥♥ to get this war rollin in the first place and the reason they're defending is because the world is collectively pushing back against their foul actions or whatever.

I sided with them because I want suppressors.

[prv.rat]

Originally posted by mie001:

What did Europan do?" Using out-dated tech to fight a defensive war", come on man, they gotta have something more sinister than corpse tank, otherwise just print a "we are good guys" on their helmet

In general i agree with it. In comparison with cybernetic horrors they constantly battle against europan are innocent as childrens (torture soldiers of oposing armies for fun or profit and killing "civilians" are not uncommon thing, every fraction in forever winter likely do this - its just a common things happens at war).
And It is somehow boring, because europa have no own "spice" like aneemu girl corpse harvester or robotic hounds.

[Lord-Captain Mikorius]

At the end of the day, the City we live in is Europan territory, they probably know this place way better than anyone else, the locals/scavs are probably mostly Europan civilians, with the same culture and language(s). but even if Europa loses, chances are that Eurasia will take us and Cyberize us, or Euruska will process us.

I'd say Evropa is probably the better choice for us, out of the 3. That being said, they are all evil.

[Ilearnyourwayz]

Itll be interesting to see what develops over time with the lore and the game. I also tend to side with Europa as they feel like the underdog. And hey It pays to be the underdog. =P Perhaps with all of us Scavs increasing in number and strength over time Itll tip the battle against them all and in time sanity will prevail through the Scavs. Good Fun