Which is the best machine ascension path for arc welders?

[ZoSo]

Which is the best (or most synergistic) machine ascension path for arc welders?

Which is the best machine ascension path for arc welders with obsessional directive?

Thanks in advance

[Pizza_0786]

Nanotech. Reason: the Arc furnace multiplies the nanite deposits you get from buildings specific to nanotech.

None of the ascension paths synergize or anti-synergise that much with obsessional directive, it works in all of the intended playstyles for the ascensions.

[Nolo Contendere]

Originally posted by Pizza_0786:

Nanotech. Reason: the Arc furnace multiplies the nanite deposits you get from buildings specific to nanotech.

None of the ascension paths synergize or anti-synergise that much with obsessional directive, it works in all of the intended playstyles for the ascensions.

As much as I love virtualization, I have to second the nanotech suggestion for the same reason. I'd have to do some additional testing, or someone who is a bigger nerd than me can confirm whether or not astro mining is even more busted or not.

[peto]

They are all pretty good tbh. Astro-mining welders goes well with virtual. You can push basically all your extraction off planet and focus a small number of worlds on complex drones. If you luck into Cybrex even better. Early ring world, consumer goods -> unity -> alloys cycle, even better astro mining. If you want to do cosmogenesis, nihilistic acquisition is helpful as well as you can't transfer virtual pops to the lathe so you need to rely on donations.

[Osloares]

Nanotech

[mss73055]

Except nanotech is a total cringe for fleet management.
What ascension will spoil even the most glorious of play throughs? --- nanotech

origin: Arc Welder
civics: Rogue Servitor, Astro-Mining Drones
ascension: Virtualisation

[Pizza_0786]

Originally posted by mss73055:

Except nanotech is a total cringe for fleet management.
What ascension will spoil even the most glorious of play throughs? --- nanotech

origin: Arc Welder
civics: Rogue Servitor, Astro-Mining Drones
ascension: Virtualisation

True, it does add that extra layer of micromanagement to fleets and those tiny 2-Size nanite swarmer fleets for free, however it is the only one that directly synergizes with arc furnaces as per multiplying its relevant resources with them. The others are still viable, but don't have any synergy of that sort.

[Dracon]

Great if you are in constant war too lol
Just fling them swarms at the enemy
I hear the Carrier model is the best to go with too. Bang for buck

[Nolo Contendere]

Originally posted by Dracon:

Great if you are in constant war too lol
Just fling them swarms at the enemy
I hear the Carrier model is the best to go with too. Bang for buck

Carrier swarms give you the range of a carrier and the evasion of a corvette and the upkeep of neither.

They’re pretty nice.

[Willem]

Nanotech, Astro-Mining Drones, try and get Cybrex for the Cybrex Mining Hub starbase building for an additional +50% output to all mining stations in your Arc Furnace Systems, Prosperity Traditions for 20% more in an addition to all those previous bonuses..

[Nolo Contendere]

Originally posted by Willem:

Nanotech, Astro-Mining Drones, try and get Cybrex for the Cybrex Mining Hub starbase building for an additional +50% output to all mining stations in your Arc Furnace Systems, Prosperity Traditions for 20% more in an addition to all those previous bonuses..

now listen here youngster, you keep that dirty talk to your discord channel!

[Willem]

Originally posted by Nolo Contendere:

Originally posted by Willem:

Nanotech, Astro-Mining Drones, try and get Cybrex for the Cybrex Mining Hub starbase building for an additional +50% output to all mining stations in your Arc Furnace Systems, Prosperity Traditions for 20% more in an addition to all those previous bonuses..

now listen here youngster, you keep that dirty talk to your discord channel!

Nope.

[SigilQuiver]

arc welders is good with resource consolidation + nanotech + mining drones because you can funnel most of your minerals into consumer goods instead of alloys and since you will be building so many starbases you can get extra resource capacity for more consumer goods. Also you will really struggle for energy credits with nanotech because of how many mining deposits you have, although late game resource consolidation can give you tons and tons of energy credits. I played with the build to the late game and got like 8000k ships (number of ships not power) to the point where I didn't need to even spend nanites to get ships anymore.

[Willem]

Originally posted by SigilQuiver:

arc welders is good with resource consolidation + nanotech + mining drones because you can funnel most of your minerals into consumer goods instead of alloys and since you will be building so many starbases you can get extra resource capacity for more consumer goods. Also you will really struggle for energy credits with nanotech because of how many mining deposits you have, although late game resource consolidation can give you tons and tons of energy credits. I played with the build to the late game and got like 8000k ships (number of ships not power) to the point where I didn't need to even spend nanites to get ships anymore.

You got 8 Million ships? How did the game not kill itself?

Also: Don't you mean Obsessional Directive? Resource Consolidation and Arc Welders are both origins, and Machines do not need Consumer Goods unless Rogue Servitor or Obsessional Directive.

[SigilQuiver]

Originally posted by Willem:

Originally posted by SigilQuiver:

arc welders is good with resource consolidation + nanotech + mining drones because you can funnel most of your minerals into consumer goods instead of alloys and since you will be building so many starbases you can get extra resource capacity for more consumer goods. Also you will really struggle for energy credits with nanotech because of how many mining deposits you have, although late game resource consolidation can give you tons and tons of energy credits. I played with the build to the late game and got like 8000k ships (number of ships not power) to the point where I didn't need to even spend nanites to get ships anymore.

You got 8 Million ships? How did the game not kill itself?

Also: Don't you mean Obsessional Directive? Resource Consolidation and Arc Welders are both origins, and Machines do not need Consumer Goods unless Rogue Servitor or Obsessional Directive.

I am stupid I meant 8000 ships and yes I meant Obsessional Directive thank you

[SigilQuiver]

I got so many ships that my game would be unplayable if I had my fleets with hangar bays in combat.