Galactic Market is Bugged

[Strifeboy]

Tried a dozen times and i don't know how many points I've wasted to get perfect many times over different game. I own enough trade value that's almost 10 times the rest of the galaxy combined, what the hell there has to be something else that's missing besides making a planet perfect through the decisitions.

[Geoff]

There's no guaranteed way to get it. You could try "save-scumming" the decision a few times to verify if it's at least possible to get it. There can be more than one "perfect"-rated planet in the galaxy, so the odds of you getting it are not fully under your control. It could also be glitched too, that's... not an infrequent source of problems in this game. But it's definitely a feature people are likely to feel is rigged against them but is not.

[Stormy Fairweather]

can confirm. had the best economy in the game, used two boosts, and still went to a tiny empire with a pathetic economy on multiple loads. only way i was able to prevent it was to play as them, remove their planetary decision... AND remove their influence because if they had enough for a basic nomination they would always get it on reload.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Strifeboy:

Tried a dozen times and i don't know how many points I've wasted to get perfect many times over different game. I own enough trade value that's almost 10 times the rest of the galaxy combined, what the hell there has to be something else that's missing besides making a planet perfect through the decisitions.

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Trade#Galactic_market

There is no guaranteed way to get it to spawn in your territory, checking all the boxes simply increase the chance of you getting it.

[Exothermically Eclectic]

There's various methods to increase your chances, but the final result is random.
Compare it to trying to win a lottery; the factors that increase your chances are the equivalent of buying more tickets, but so long as there's other tickets floating around you can always lose, and if there's enough other tickets your chances will be low even if you sink a lot of your money into tickets.
To continue the analogy, it might be easier to just take other people's tickets, or wait for the winner to be declared and then... convince them to part with the prize.

[HappySack]

It's just working as intended because even gestalts can get it.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

There is no guaranteed way to get it to spawn in your territory, checking all the boxes simply increase the chance of you getting it.

I've definitely gotten it in my past two games, though I'm not on the current build. And in neither of them was I the likeliest candidate. I burned the influence on it but they planets and systems were only average at the outset of the bids.

Maybe it's one of those things where you only get it when you happen not to care if you do or don't.

[Strifeboy]

Originally posted by Geoff:

There's no guaranteed way to get it. You could try "save-scumming" the decision a few times to verify if it's at least possible to get it. There can be more than one "perfect"-rated planet in the galaxy, so the odds of you getting it are not fully under your control. It could also be glitched too, that's... not an infrequent source of problems in this game. But it's definitely a feature people are likely to feel is rigged against them but is not.

I play Iron, just getting triggered after after a few game and re-rolling through galactic community. Tried about 10 times over a few games with nothing, the cost investment is way to high for something that should be weighted from trade of the planet.

[jojobe]

I just noticed that too it makes no dam sense. It should be the top 5 factions on trade value and percent it from there ITS RANDOM and its stupid.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by jojobe:

I just noticed that too it makes no dam sense. It should be the top 5 factions on trade value and percent it from there ITS RANDOM and its stupid.

It's weighted to give smaller empires a greater chance of getting it - presumably based on the idea that most trade centers in Earth experience tend to be small and politically independent. Whether it should be that way, I dunno. But it's recognizably a system that wants to put the galactic market in something more like Singapore, Amsterdam or Hong Kong rather than in an Imperial capital.

[jojobe]

Originally posted by Geoff:

Originally posted by jojobe:

I just noticed that too it makes no dam sense. It should be the top 5 factions on trade value and percent it from there ITS RANDOM and its stupid.

It's weighted to give smaller empires a greater chance of getting it - presumably based on the idea that most trade centers in Earth experience tend to be small and politically independent. Whether it should be that way, I dunno. But it's recognizably a system that wants to put the galactic market in something more like Singapore, Amsterdam or Hong Kong rather than in an Imperial capital.

that is not what their page says for bonues. look a their link it goes off of trade value and government type boost.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by jojobe:

that is not what their page says for bonues. look a their link it goes off of trade value and government type boost.

System trade value, with even trade generated within the nominated system being discounted slightly if it's not coming from the nominated planet. Every empire gets one and only one nomination, so that automatically creates parity between every empire. Corporate empires get a bonus to their chance, which - given the growth penalties they face - also means that it's going to be weighted more heavily in favor of smaller empires. And the boosts are bought with influence which is a resource that is plentiful for small empires at 2250 (roughly around when the process starts in most games) while it's still scarce for expansionist ones. So most of any given game's largest empires won't even be in the running. And those that are will still barely have a better chance than any puny empire that hasn't expanded. The market *can* end up in the capital system of a large empire, but the way the system is designed, that is a very rare result.

[Patty Walnuts]

bad game design, thats it dude.

32k energy a month, 12 eucs, im a megacorp

still goes to some retarded back water that only contends due to the % free ♥♥♥♥ the AI gets

such stupid lazy anti fun game design, but that is literally everyone of their strategy games

[Ulthar]

Maybe there are other factors like being a slave trader?

[Patty Walnuts]

or bad shallow puddle deep game design

[Jilocasin]

Recently I had a game where nobody applied for the galactic market? It said that establishing he galactic market failed for lack of suitable planet or something like that. Was a first for me