Ships not engaging in combat bug

[zbhalokiller117]

I've had this bug happen before and I've caught it a few times but tonight i had an over 400k worth of fleet power get destroyed by a single 30k awakened empire fleet as i was trying to go for the war in heaven achievement so now I've lost the game lost the achievement which i haven't even had the chance to get for almost 20 games now and an entire evening down the drain of wasted time because of some stupid bug that has been a thing for months if not almost a year already. Fix your game already paradox.

[Razorblade]

All you have to do is save and reload your game to fix the bug. Pay more attention and you won't have a problem.

[Chap]

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[Elitewrecker PT]

How long were you even looking at a 30k fleet attacking a 400k?

[zbhalokiller117]

Originally posted by Razorblade:

All you have to do is save and reload your game to fix the bug. Pay more attention and you won't have a problem.

playing ironman it autosaves like every other month think before you speak

[zbhalokiller117]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

How long were you even looking at a 30k fleet attacking a 400k?

i wasn't watching the whole time i had fleets sitting in a choke point scrolled over to try and fight the other awakened empire i was squished between turned back cus the combat felt like it was taking long and saw the enemy fleet not taking damage zoomed in and tried to get them to leave the system but all but like 40k got destroyed

[Azunai]

The save&reload (or in ironman games quit&reload) workaround fixes the bugged condition that makes your fleets not shoot back.

Obviously the bug is still going to cause grief if you don't notice it before it's too late.

But whenever you notice that one of your battles is in this bugged state, the best course of action is to immediately pause, quit the current session and reload. In my experience it's enough to quit to the main menu (i.e. you don't have to close and restart the game altogether)

[jacobellinger]

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

I've had this bug happen before and I've caught it a few times but tonight i had an over 400k worth of fleet power get destroyed by a single 30k awakened empire fleet as i was trying to go for the war in heaven achievement so now I've lost the game lost the achievement which i haven't even had the chance to get for almost 20 games now and an entire evening down the drain of wasted time because of some stupid bug that has been a thing for months if not almost a year already. Fix your game already paradox.

this bug has actually been around since the game came out. the devs have stated that they cant track down what causes it and it's not reproducible because reloading a save before or during the bug fixes the bug. If I recall the last news I read from them was they have not given up on trying to fix it.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

How long were you even looking at a 30k fleet attacking a 400k?

i wasn't watching the whole time i had fleets sitting in a choke point scrolled over to try and fight the other awakened empire i was squished between turned back cus the combat felt like it was taking long and saw the enemy fleet not taking damage zoomed in and tried to get them to leave the system but all but like 40k got destroyed

Ye but as Razor said, the fix is reloading the game the moment you notice ships not firing in battle, not trying to run away with them. Usually people who've had the bug before know this (since they investigate it).

Originally posted by jacobellinger:

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

I've had this bug happen before and I've caught it a few times but tonight i had an over 400k worth of fleet power get destroyed by a single 30k awakened empire fleet as i was trying to go for the war in heaven achievement so now I've lost the game lost the achievement which i haven't even had the chance to get for almost 20 games now and an entire evening down the drain of wasted time because of some stupid bug that has been a thing for months if not almost a year already. Fix your game already paradox.

this bug has actually been around since the game came out. the devs have stated that they cant track down what causes it and it's not reproducible because reloading a save before or during the bug fixes the bug. If I recall the last news I read from them was they have not given up on trying to fix it.

Supposedly there will be future debugging tools (also made public) that might allow for more info about this to be found.

[ScreamCon]

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

playing ironman it autosaves like every other month think before you speak

Well you didn't really think before you spoke yourself. Because the point of saving and reloading isn't to stop it from saving, but rather reduce how much loss you get noticing their not engaging. Meaning the difference between being able to pull a game around or rage quitting. The more you let them slaughter you the more likely you won't even want to play that game anymore.

And until the developers finally figure out what part of code is responsible, or what new piece could stop the bug this 'coping' mechanism will be used.

[zbhalokiller117]

Originally posted by ScreamCon:

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

playing ironman it autosaves like every other month think before you speak

Well you didn't really think before you spoke yourself. Because the point of saving and reloading isn't to stop it from saving, but rather reduce how much loss you get noticing their not engaging. Meaning the difference between being able to pull a game around or rage quitting. The more you let them slaughter you the more likely you won't even want to play that game anymore.

And until the developers finally figure out what part of code is responsible, or what new piece could stop the bug this 'coping' mechanism will be used.

You didnt think before you spoke it autosaved after the fight already happened

[zbhalokiller117]

Originally posted by Azunai:

The save&reload (or in ironman games quit&reload) workaround fixes the bugged condition that makes your fleets not shoot back.

Obviously the bug is still going to cause grief if you don't notice it before it's too late.

But whenever you notice that one of your battles is in this bugged state, the best course of action is to immediately pause, quit the current session and reload. In my experience it's enough to quit to the main menu (i.e. you don't have to close and restart the game altogether)

yep didnt notice until it was almost all gone was looking at another fight

[zbhalokiller117]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

i wasn't watching the whole time i had fleets sitting in a choke point scrolled over to try and fight the other awakened empire i was squished between turned back cus the combat felt like it was taking long and saw the enemy fleet not taking damage zoomed in and tried to get them to leave the system but all but like 40k got destroyed

Ye but as Razor said, the fix is reloading the game the moment you notice ships not firing in battle, not trying to run away with them. Usually people who've had the bug before know this (since they investigate it).

Originally posted by jacobellinger:

this bug has actually been around since the game came out. the devs have stated that they cant track down what causes it and it's not reproducible because reloading a save before or during the bug fixes the bug. If I recall the last news I read from them was they have not given up on trying to fix it.

Supposedly there will be future debugging tools (also made public) that might allow for more info about this to be found.

its not a fix at all if its already autosaved by the time u notice it

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

I've had this bug happen before and I've caught it a few times but tonight i had an over 400k worth of fleet power get destroyed by a single 30k awakened empire fleet as i was trying to go for the war in heaven achievement so now I've lost the game lost the achievement which i haven't even had the chance to get for almost 20 games now and an entire evening down the drain of wasted time because of some stupid bug that has been a thing for months if not almost a year already. Fix your game already paradox.

Which version was that?

If it was the previous wait for the new one. But either way thatks for your input.

[martin.lovasz]

This is the bug I hate the most so I never play iron man anymore as it will always screw you over sooner or later.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by zbhalokiller117:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Ye but as Razor said, the fix is reloading the game the moment you notice ships not firing in battle, not trying to run away with them. Usually people who've had the bug before know this (since they investigate it).




Supposedly there will be future debugging tools (also made public) that might allow for more info about this to be found.

its not a fix at all if its already autosaved by the time u notice it

It's a fix compared to letting your ENTIRE fleet get destroyed. If you reload, the ships stop not firing so the bug is no longer happening.