Is Paradox still pro-censorship?

[Doctor Gitgud]

I was thinking about buying some of the newer expansions and giving Stellaris some more playtime but by happenstance I came across an old article that was extremely troubling to me:

https://www.eurogamer.net/paradox-pulls-discriminatory-stellaris-mod-that-made-all-humans-white

Essentially Paradox appears to have taken the position that a race mod with European phenotypes was somehow "discriminatory" and decided to censor it. Obviously there should be no problem with a mod like this. After all, it would never occur to me, for instance, to be upset if blacks modded an all-black race into the game to play as empires who looked like them, or if asians preferred to play as asians, etc.

What was the outcome of this controversy, and has Paradox come to their senses since then? I like Stellaris but there are plenty of other space strategy games and I don't want to support this nonsense with my gaming dollars.

[Phoenixel]

Dude this is pathetic. Get a grip. It was made by a white supremacist.

[SaD-82]

Originally posted by Mavkiel:

What doesn't make sense if say Canada say has a 245% tariff on U.S. cheese but complains if we eventually retaliate.

What your press, and especially your president, isn't telling you, though: It all was balanced.
Why? Because those tariffs were being offset by those other nations investing in the US.
If you count the investments done by other nations into the US against the tariffs they implemented, you will realize that it was basically a fair trade-off. Zero sum.

Now, though?
Now your president got greedy (as he is with claiming Canada, Greenland and the resources in Ukraine) and he thought he could be a parasite by leeching away at all those other nations by imposing tariffs and still getting all this investment money from them, putting every other nation on a disadvantages by not having a fair trade-off.

And what happens? The other nations implement new tariffs and set the current ones at higher percentages AND the investments into your nation stop.
Leaving you at a disadvantage.

And the most funny thing?
All of you are happy about it and the rising costs and the rising inflation and thank your king for his incompetence and mistreatment of allies. Maybe he should start playing Stellaris to learn what happens if you anger your allies and what happens if every other empire starts a coalition against you. Being lonely doesn't make you strong.

[why]

Funny how everybody in this thread is wrong in their own way.

[harken23]

Originally posted by why:

Funny how everybody in this thread is wrong in their own way.

Except you, of course.

[harken23]

Originally posted by sno0ks:

Originally posted by harken23:

No it isn't. Don't use words you don't understand.

it literally is lmao

censorship is any deliberate suppression of information. you've earned this clown.

Nope. But thanks for the points!

Maybe you think Pete "Whiskeyleaks" Hegseth should text secret military attack plans to everyone? Otherwise it's censorship, right? And the Atlantic should have published them right away and gotten Americans killed. Right? Or it's censorship, right?

[harken23]

Originally posted by Phoenixel:

Dude this is pathetic. Get a grip. It was made by a white supremacist.

I think the basic disconnect here is that way too many ppl see white supremacy as a virtue.

[Ryika]

Originally posted by harken23:

Nope.

Depends a bit on the definition used, but under pretty much any definition that does not limit it to the government doing it, it would qualify as censorship. But of course not all censorship is bad, and the vast majority of people are not in favor of literally unrestricted free speech.

Removing a guy's content for literal racist rants is the kind of censorship that most people are probably fine with.

[ScreamCon]

Originally posted by SaD-82:

Originally posted by Mavkiel:

What doesn't make sense if say Canada say has a 245% tariff on U.S. cheese but complains if we eventually retaliate.

What your press, and especially your president, isn't telling you, though: It all was balanced.
Why? Because those tariffs were being offset by those other nations investing in the US.
If you count the investments done by other nations into the US against the tariffs they implemented, you will realize that it was basically a fair trade-off. Zero sum.

Now, though?
Now your president got greedy (as he is with claiming Canada, Greenland and the resources in Ukraine) and he thought he could be a parasite by leeching away at all those other nations by imposing tariffs and still getting all this investment money from them, putting every other nation on a disadvantages by not having a fair trade-off.

And what happens? The other nations implement new tariffs and set the current ones at higher percentages AND the investments into your nation stop.
Leaving you at a disadvantage.

And the most funny thing?
All of you are happy about it and the rising costs and the rising inflation and thank your king for his incompetence and mistreatment of allies. Maybe he should start playing Stellaris to learn what happens if you anger your allies and what happens if every other empire starts a coalition against you. Being lonely doesn't make you strong.

Dont you worry chap, I hear Canada has a fertilizer market that could spontaneously increase in price along with that tarsand oil extraction in Alberta. Meanwhile the cereal isle is prodominantly American import so those precious oats and wheats could get a spike in cost. While Canada is experiencing winter of course. Thats when most things cannot be produced here.

Personally my thoughts are that Trump is wrong, we wouldn't become the 51 state, rather the 70th as theirs that much land to cut up. And even if they wanted more land the logical route is they earn it. Where are they going to tax if most of canada's farms dont produce in winter and have short growth seasons.

I would be on the side to merge canada because I believe the unparalleled landmass would increase in power and thus my farmstead would become more stable. Despite what the canadian military would say on matter how canada is theirs.

[Mr.M]

Originally posted by harken23:

Originally posted by sno0ks:

Trump is the first Republican in recent history to win the popular vote.

Because Americans are entitled infants who think tariffs are going to just buy everybody everything they need. But only after texting journalists our plans to attack a terrorist cell.

Nah dude, its more complex than that...
I mean, i do agree on the infant part - but open borders, awful covid administration (part of which was under Trump, but a lot of it under Democrats), men in women sports (DEI in general), soaring prices, awful handling of criminals...

Countless things gone wrong over the last couple years and partly even decade. (since individual states apparently have a lot of leeway over there) Democrats just went completely bonkers.

Not to mention the awful choice Kamala as a candidate was. Even a monkey would have won the popular vote against her. The fact that Trump won just shows you in what a pathetic situation Democrats are right now.

[Mr.M]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Did you just put people in quotation marks?

Eh. People protesting Elon Musk in America calling him a Fascist use signs on their demonstrations depicting him as a rat - so basically dehumanizing him (a certain movement 90 years ago also loved to dehumanize)

People just lack awareness, that's why history keeps repeating itself.

[Darn]

nice b8 m8

[harken23]

Originally posted by Mr.M:

Originally posted by harken23:

Because Americans are entitled infants who think tariffs are going to just buy everybody everything they need. But only after texting journalists our plans to attack a terrorist cell.

Nah dude, its more complex than that...
I mean, i do agree on the infant part - but open borders, awful covid administration (part of which was under Trump, but a lot of it under Democrats), men in women sports (DEI in general), soaring prices, awful handling of criminals...

Countless things gone wrong over the last couple years and partly even decade. (since individual states apparently have a lot of leeway over there) Democrats just went completely bonkers.

Not to mention the awful choice Kamala as a candidate was. Even a monkey would have won the popular vote against her. The fact that Trump won just shows you in what a pathetic situation Democrats are right now.

I used to be a Democrat, but the party left me. I'm a Tip O'Neal, Ted Kennedy old school democrat. There aren't many of us around any more. Another reason I hate the party is bkz they lost to Bush and blamed Ralph Nader instead of learning a damn thing. Then they lost to Donald freaking Trump, and blamed Jill Stein and didn't learn a damn thing.

I lived in CA when Kamala was running for local and state offices, and I actually do like her a lot. Yes, she's another corporate democrat, and not the best at campaigning, but she sure handed Trump his arse at the debate. Orange Julius thought she "cheated" when what she was, was "prepared".

The fact that Trump won after trying to overthrow the government shows you what a pathetic bunch of imbeciles live in this country.

[Ryika]

I mean, that's just what happens when you have a country that essentially only has two political parties, of which one is seemingly doing all they can to be as unpopular as they can be with the general public.

All the Democrats would need to do to win elections, is to reign in their extremists, but they can't even get themselves to do something as simple as to say that damaging people's cars for political reasons is bad.

[Mr.M]

Originally posted by harken23:

I lived in CA when Kamala was running for local and state offices, and I actually do like her a lot. Yes, she's another corporate democrat, and not the best at campaigning, but she sure handed Trump his arse at the debate. Orange Julius thought she "cheated" when what she was, was "prepared".

The fact that Trump won after trying to overthrow the government shows you what a pathetic bunch of imbeciles live in this country.

...i really dont want to go down that route of discussion (i just cant help myself after reading that), but i personally dont think "liking" a politician is a good qualifier for voting someone. That's in part why populism is so rampant, politicians dont try to show off with competence, but only want to appear likeable.

After the Los Angeles forest fires i saw a video of someone interviewing people in LA and a woman said she likes Gawin Newsom because she thinks he is "eloquent" - my skin crawled in fear thinking that she votes (since to remind everyone - a certain person in germany 90 years ago was also seen as an "eloquent" person)

Actions matter, not appearances

[Grev]

Originally posted by MegaDeth:

Paradox is full on Globohomo.

Which means "they" pronouns for individuals, mandatory black people and black-inspired aliens and everything that flows downstream of these ethical pillars, including the suppression of Caucasians in general, the normalisation of race-mixing for Caucasians and the promotion of homosexuality for Caucasians.

This also means the suppression of any mod that would prevent any of the above, hence OP's issue.

Paradox is a bit tamer than Ubisoft, to be fair.

I'd say you should take that hood off because it's limiting your vision, but I REALLY want to see you smash your nose on a few door frames first.