Galactic Imperium vs Hegemony

[Ellydir]

Since forming the Imperium immediately dissolved all federations (including your own), has anyone played both a Hegemon and the Galactit Emperor for a while, and can say whether forming the Imperium outweighs your losses from your hegemony getting dissolved?

[mss73055]

The hegemony federation is a federation. One member is boss, but it can change over time much like previously happened in the howling roman empire. Like when you lose your fleet on the next crisis you may be removed from command.

In the Galactic Imperium you are the lightning wielding jedi who is not going to give up his velour seat. All members of the galactic council are your underlings no matter their ethics.

[The Grand Mugwump]

Depends on what you want. You definitely lose the 600+ (I've had it go up to 1100, yay bugs!) size federation fleet which practically builds itself thanks to the AI members. If you're in a position to pass the empire resolution, you're also in a position to pass the term limit removal and the GDF founding and expansion measures, which gives you that sweet 800 size GDF fleet at 50% cost which only you can build unlike the hegemony federation fleet.

From that point, transitioning to becoming the imperial core removes the self maintaining federation fleet, removes all your hegemony president and member bonuses (RIP +15% all resource income) and replaces them with the maybe kinda slightly not really better imperial civic, and now people have a way to dissent against you besides being stronger in a hegemony. Your empire will become less united because now only you and whoever is attacked by a foreign power will go to war instead of the entire galactic hegemon federation. Your GDF fleet gets renamed to imperial armada, and you can pass a resolution for imperial legionnaires who are slightly better than gene warriors.

I went from hegemony to galactic empire, and I felt really, really underwhelmed by it. Pretty much all I gained was 1 or 2 influence per month over what I was getting as a level 5 hegemony president. I'm glad I did it in the last 20 years of the game because I spent that time missing what I had lost.

Edit: But on the plus side, because everyone was formerly in a federation, they all had trust towards me. So at least my galactic empire was extremely stable for those 20 years because everyone was already friendly.

[Ellydir]

Originally posted by The Grand Mugwump:

Depends on what you want. You definitely lose the 600+ (I've had it go up to 1100, yay bugs!) size federation fleet which practically builds itself thanks to the AI members. If you're in a position to pass the empire resolution, you're also in a position to pass the term limit removal and the GDF founding and expansion measures, which gives you that sweet 800 size GDF fleet at 50% cost which only you can build unlike the hegemony federation fleet.

From that point, transitioning to becoming the imperial core removes the self maintaining federation fleet, removes all your hegemony president and member bonuses (RIP +15% all resource income) and replaces them with the maybe kinda slightly not really better imperial civic, and now people have a way to dissent against you besides being stronger in a hegemony. Your empire will become less united because now only you and whoever is attacked by a foreign power will go to war instead of the entire galactic hegemon federation. Your GDF fleet gets renamed to imperial armada, and you can pass a resolution for imperial legionnaires who are slightly better than gene warriors.

I went from hegemony to galactic empire, and I felt really, really underwhelmed by it. Pretty much all I gained was 1 or 2 influence per month over what I was getting as a level 5 hegemony president. I'm glad I did it in the last 20 years of the game because I spent that time missing what I had lost.

Edit: But on the plus side, because everyone was formerly in a federation, they all had trust towards me. So at least my galactic empire was extremely stable for those 20 years because everyone was already friendly.

Thank you for the overview. So I guess Imperium is more or less a downgrade from Hegemony, especially if (I assume) one can just stay Custodian indefinitely and keep their hegemony.

[The Grand Mugwump]

I really get the impression it was just bait for Star Wars fans. The only new resolutions the galactic empire adds are to create legionnaires, pax galactica (prevent all wars between imperial players) and to declare war on non-imperial people to add them to the empire. Why? Dunno. They're just going to assign envoys to disrupt your empire anyways.

Oh, and you can sponsor a mega corp so only they can build corporate buildings and can do it everywhere without a commerce agreement. It would be nice for a megacorp, except becoming the imperial core changes your government type to imperial.