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Crowbot 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:15
How are you suppose to fight fallen empires?
I hate fallen empires. They seem to only be there to kill you just as you're getting things the way you like it. Can't talk to them, can't trade.
And now this space frog just declared war on what seems to be half the galaxy. My best fleet is 47k, theirs is 215k. How am I suppose to beat that?
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Dustreaper 2022 年 6 月 18 日 下午 4:00 
Fe's are basically mid to end game threats, you should't mess with them earlier.If if you went with war to them they are a non threat they cannot take planets from you, unless they are AE but that's end game. They are pretty damn weak though they only have a few high power fleet and not that many shipyards that are also pretty close together just rush those with 10 40k fleets and your good.I love them and i even buffed the more because i felt like they are a joke.
最后由 Dustreaper 编辑于; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 下午 4:01
Lich King 2022 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:16 
I've found the FEs to be fairly doable once battleships and X slot weapons are around, which is around the beginning of midgame. If you are with a couple buddies in multiplayer, they can be wiped out easy enough before they awaken and with more difficulty if they are.

In single player, I apply the same strat but it takes a little longer because I have no allies (Exterminator moment). Galactic contender perk becomes more important as it gives 33% bonus dmg against FEs, AEs, and Gray Tempest

First/early wars you want to deal them some casualties so you when you surrender, you can research their juicy tech from debris and get DM thrusters, reactors, and shields. Imo thrusters are the most important part because you can get higher sublight speeds and maneuverability is important, although you will almost never be as fast as their fleets. With their tech, it becomes a bit easier to fight them.

Their ships have range, for specific loadouts visit Aspec's video on YT about the FE types and weaponry. I found that to be immensely helpful to outfitting and composing my fleets. If at disadvantage with range, try to camp hyperlanes but you need to be really on point with your predictions or have a nebula to help your ships stay hidden - the FE fleets will outrun and thus outmaneuver you.

Also, they have jump drives and they have no fear of god or the unbidden to use them. Expect surprises. Hyper-relays and gateways are critical to late-game engagements

Oh and they can use anyone's gateways, wormholes, and no one can close borders to them so the wormhole that your uninvolved neighbor has that leads to you is a vulnerability that the FE WILL exploit
Yhvh10 2022 年 6 月 19 日 下午 12:44 
Corvettes. No seriously. The tactic that always saves me is a corvette screen with maxed out evasion, with a fleet of heavy hitting battleships. The FE ships will focus on the corvettes while your battleships(preferably armed with a particle lance) shred their ships.
GlompFox 2022 年 6 月 20 日 上午 12:21 
Fallen Empire ships are super shielded up, so any weapon that does extra damage to shields or bypasses them entirely makes them MUCH easier to take on. They're like a mini-crisis, and like the crisis you need to counter build them.

Also taking out even one of their fleets and then researching the wreckage with your science ship will get you access to researching their dark matter tech, which is the best you can get for your ships excluding the psi level techs from shroud events and dragon armor for slaying the dragon leviathan.
ScreamCon 2022 年 6 月 20 日 上午 2:33 
Their 'fallen' empires. If they wake up they get much more deadly. . . to a degree. If you want to increase local stability take out the raider factions first. 50k is normally enough to start removing them with ease.

I'm not sure how many boss creatures can be tooken out with a 50k fleet but much of the smaller peskier stuff can be removed. Space wales, crystal entities, mining robots.

Taking out smaller empires simplifies your local diplomacy while also ensuring there is more path ways for your fleets.

Submitting to the fallen empire is a loss but if you also took actions to simplify your space it becomes clearer how you'll play the larger powers to a win. Or... what desperate measures you'll have to take.
最后由 ScreamCon 编辑于; 2022 年 6 月 20 日 上午 2:37
Yhvh10 2022 年 6 月 20 日 上午 5:44 
引用自 ScreamCon
Their 'fallen' empires. If they wake up they get much more deadly. . . to a degree. If you want to increase local stability take out the raider factions first. 50k is normally enough to start removing them with ease.

Only if the world status permits it. Do not attack them if your mid-game and you haven’t had a great khan. Otherwise there’s a VERY high chance that the Marauders your attacking will unify against you under a great khan, and that will spawn in a bunch of fleets against you.
Systemic Oppression 2022 年 6 月 20 日 下午 5:42 
Hey, just saw this post if you wanna go kill god together just add me im relatively new to the game just got the machine dlc
Bloodartist 2022 年 6 月 20 日 下午 5:46 
引用自 Crowbot
I hate fallen empires. They seem to only be there to kill you just as you're getting things the way you like it. Can't talk to them, can't trade.
And now this space frog just declared war on what seems to be half the galaxy. My best fleet is 47k, theirs is 215k. How am I suppose to beat that?

Build a bigger fleet.

But in general, avoid making FEs angry before you are ready.
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