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Fros_ty May 14, 2022 @ 11:33am
Empire Sprawl
I hate empire sprawl with my entire being. I see it as a stupid function. So i ask is there a mod, cheat code, hack or anything that can help me with remove empire sprawl or least increase the capacity?
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Originally posted by Fros_ty:
is there a mod, cheat code, hack or anything that can help me with remove empire sprawl or least increase the capacity?
Yes.
Meewec May 14, 2022 @ 3:31pm 
the penalties empire sprawl imposes have always been in the game
IonizedMercury May 14, 2022 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Meewec:
the penalties empire sprawl imposes have always been in the game
You could easily and cheaply circumvent them in previous builds, that's what was the problem. It should never be possible to complete offset scaling mechanics.
Originally posted by PMarricks:
Originally posted by Meewec:
the penalties empire sprawl imposes have always been in the game
You could easily and cheaply circumvent them in previous builds, that's what was the problem. It should never be possible to complete offset scaling mechanics.
Some previous builds. The penalties were in from the start, admin cap was only in for a fairly short time by comparison.
VoiD May 14, 2022 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by PMarricks:
Originally posted by Meewec:
the penalties empire sprawl imposes have always been in the game
You could easily and cheaply circumvent them in previous builds, that's what was the problem. It should never be possible to complete offset scaling mechanics.
Yeah, creating bureaucrats was a mistake, there was no need to create a mechanic to negate a mechanic in the game meant to balance all the civs.

It's no wonder people could just expand, make 4+ tech worlds, research without any penalties, finish the entire tech tree in 100 years and wipe the floor with a x25 endgame crisis every game, the game was in a complete broken state for a long, long time.
BigJ May 14, 2022 @ 4:27pm 
They simply don't work, I'm playing with an old quick expansion wide technology empire and still able to get ahead of the curve easily, I'm also rather bad at the game.

They make it a bit harder, yes there will be moments where your economy may require heavy balancing, but in the end your penalty will be offset by making more research worlds till you hit the point where the penalty is too much, then you can just stop and build tall, it's ridicious.
Fros_ty May 14, 2022 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Exothermically Eclectic:
Originally posted by Fros_ty:
is there a mod, cheat code, hack or anything that can help me with remove empire sprawl or least increase the capacity?
Yes.
Where can i find these mods, cheats or hacks.
Orion Invictus May 14, 2022 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Fros_ty:
Originally posted by Exothermically Eclectic:
Yes.
Where can i find these mods, cheats or hacks.
The Workshop, along with every other mod.
IonizedMercury May 15, 2022 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by BigJ:
They simply don't work, I'm playing with an old quick expansion wide technology empire and still able to get ahead of the curve easily, I'm also rather bad at the game.

They make it a bit harder, yes there will be moments where your economy may require heavy balancing, but in the end your penalty will be offset by making more research worlds till you hit the point where the penalty is too much, then you can just stop and build tall, it's ridicious.
Then the penalties should be made steeper, not scuttled altogether. I think they should put diminishing returns on when you create more and more unity or research boosting buildings or pops.
I repeat my point that it shouldn't be possible to completely offset scaling mechanics.
BigJ May 15, 2022 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by PMarricks:
Originally posted by BigJ:
They simply don't work, I'm playing with an old quick expansion wide technology empire and still able to get ahead of the curve easily, I'm also rather bad at the game.

They make it a bit harder, yes there will be moments where your economy may require heavy balancing, but in the end your penalty will be offset by making more research worlds till you hit the point where the penalty is too much, then you can just stop and build tall, it's ridicious.
Then the penalties should be made steeper, not scuttled altogether. I think they should put diminishing returns on when you create more and more unity or research boosting buildings or pops.
I repeat my point that it shouldn't be possible to completely offset scaling mechanics.
That could work, or maybe just make technology by the "tall" thing and unity be the "wide thing", give more penalties to tech on sprawl and lower them for unity to be less steep, done.
Hebrux Aug 20, 2024 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Originally posted by Fros_ty:
Where can i find these mods, cheats or hacks.
The Workshop, along with every other mod.
give us one that isn't out of date
Kalemenos Aug 20, 2024 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by Hebrux:
give us one that isn't out of date
Are ANY up to date? Or try to find one if you're using an older v. (I play 3.7.3): it's like being Ahab searching for Moby ♥♥♥♥.
Steven Aug 20, 2024 @ 7:17pm 
This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.
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Date Posted: May 14, 2022 @ 11:33am
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