War Score

[NerdExtrodinare]

Am I missing something or is how war score is calculated in this game the most asinine thing ever? I've conquered literally their entire territory. We're at 20-23 war score favoring them.

[steventirey]

Those numbers aren't a war score. That is war exhaustion - how your citizens feel about ongoing conflict. Those numbers aren't indications of how well the war is going for either side. Basically, its only meaning is that a war can be forced to end (in a status quo ending) 24 months after one side hits 100.

[koimeiji]

to add onto above, you can see your "war score" under the full screen. it's the number showing the AI's acceptance to you demanding surrender. if it's green, you can click it at any time to achieve your war goal.

[Elitewrecker PT]

No way they have 23 exhaustion with their whole territory occupied unless they have allies, or your definition of entire doesn't count colonies.

[NerdExtrodinare]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

No way they have 23 exhaustion with their whole territory occupied unless they have allies, or your definition of entire doesn't count colonies.

I think it's because they had occupied territory from another war they were in.

[steventirey]

War exhaustion is caused by inflicting casualties (both in space and on the ground), as well as a passive amount. Taking territory isn't mentioned as causing it to increase on the wiki. So if you can manage to take the territory with little fighting, I would assume the war exhaustion score wouldn't increase that much.

[NerdExtrodinare]

Originally posted by steventirey:

War exhaustion is caused by inflicting casualties (both in space and on the ground), as well as a passive amount. Taking territory isn't mentioned as causing it to increase on the wiki. So if you can manage to take the territory with little fighting, I would assume the war exhaustion score wouldn't increase that much.

Yeah, I just took out his forts, no ships as they were off fighting another war.

[Mennan]

Originally posted by NerdExtrodinare:

Originally posted by steventirey:

War exhaustion is caused by inflicting casualties (both in space and on the ground), as well as a passive amount. Taking territory isn't mentioned as causing it to increase on the wiki. So if you can manage to take the territory with little fighting, I would assume the war exhaustion score wouldn't increase that much.

Yeah, I just took out his forts, no ships as they were off fighting another war.

Yeah a large chunk of war weariness comes from ship casualties. Until you start destroying ships its going to go real slow on his side. On the bright side if you manage to conquer all his planets then he will auto surrender. Note: if some of his planets are already occupied by another empire then your kinda stuck in limbo as it still counts as his until he surrenders it to the Ai.

[Mistfox]

Just remember, War Exhaustion/Weariness is TIME, it is not results. The results are the numbers in the 3 bars below the Exhaustion screen.

[NerdExtrodinare]

Originally posted by ayonked:

Originally posted by NerdExtrodinare:

Yeah, I just took out his forts, no ships as they were off fighting another war.

Yeah a large chunk of war weariness comes from ship casualties. Until you start destroying ships its going to go real slow on his side. On the bright side if you manage to conquer all his planets then he will auto surrender. Note: if some of his planets are already occupied by another empire then your kinda stuck in limbo as it still counts as his until he surrenders it to the Ai.

Yeah, the major problem that I was running into was their other war was messing up my war.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by steventirey:

War exhaustion is caused by inflicting casualties (both in space and on the ground), as well as a passive amount. Taking territory isn't mentioned as causing it to increase on the wiki. So if you can manage to take the territory with little fighting, I would assume the war exhaustion score wouldn't increase that much.

That's true, but once the enemy side is literally, completely, 100% occupied by the other side, then it's an automatic full surrender.
This means, trying to jump on someone who's already at war and partially occupied, can make it harder to actually get what you want.

[RawCode]

jumping on someone who already in war does not make things "harder", it makes things "slower" as you either need to wait, or declare war on second attacker to take systems for yourself.

actually you can pick "NA" perk and just raidbomb capital draining population without ever trying to actually take any system.

[Palisis]

Just remember, War Exhaustion/Weariness is TIME, it is not results. The results are the numbers in the 3 bars below the Exhaustion screen.

This is not entirely true. War Exhaustion is not JUST TIME and definitely affected by results. Every planet you conquer, every fleet defeated, they all affect this number in real time.

[Elitewrecker PT]

War exhaustion affects the results, but its more important aspect is that it serves as a timer for the absolute maximum time the war can take (when both sides reach 100%).
You can have 100% exhaustion on the enemy and not accomplish any of your goals.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Palisis:

Just remember, War Exhaustion/Weariness is TIME, it is not results. The results are the numbers in the 3 bars below the Exhaustion screen.

This is not entirely true. War Exhaustion is not JUST TIME and definitely affected by results. Every planet you conquer, every fleet defeated, they all affect this number in real time.

Keep it simple for the new guy please. His biggest problem was confusing war score with war exhaustion.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Those numbers aren't indications of how well the war is going for either side.

They kind of are, though. While the number goes up passively over time, war exhaustion can be gained in large chunks when losing a large percentage of your ships.