How much unity income at each stage of the game roughly speaking?

[Alxndr]

Obviously this is going to vary wildly but can someone give me some rough estimates.

2210

2250

2300

2400

I'm playing as machine empire and I'm currently 10 years in and I'm only getting +6 unity per month. Is that normal?

[PhamTrinli]

Just remember that your leaders take unity upkeep. Higher level leaders take more unity upkeep. Balance having and leveling up leaders with preserving your unity income.

It also depends on how you designed your race. There is a pretty big difference between what you might have at each of those points as a unity-optimized race versus one that is not.

tl;dr these are guestimations and generalizations but:

2210 ~ 40

2250 ~ 90

2300 ~ 150

2400 ~ 1k+

[pauloandrade224]

yeah thats fairly normal dont worry too much about it.

[mostacks]

Originally posted by PhamTrinli:

Just remember that your leaders take unity upkeep. Higher level leaders take more unity upkeep. Balance having and leveling up leaders with preserving your unity income.

It also depends on how you designed your race. There is a pretty big difference between what you might have at each of those points as a unity-optimized race versus one that is not.

tl;dr these are guestimations and generalizations but:

2210 ~ 40

2250 ~ 90

2300 ~ 150

2400 ~ 1k+

That is a really good guide. I recently learned I had been putting too much into Unity too early and that I should reapportion my efforts most games to get better results.

[peto]

Gestalt species don't get factions so they don't really get any passive unity gain. You have to invest in unity economy otherwise you are going to struggle to pay your leaders unity cost.

Get yourself a small planet and spec it as a unity world and things will sort themselves out, or if you started with resource consolidation you can build the unity district's on your capital.

[PhamTrinli]

Originally posted by peto:

Gestalt species don't get factions so they don't really get any passive unity gain. You have to invest in unity economy otherwise you are going to struggle to pay your leaders unity cost.

Get yourself a small planet and spec it as a unity world and things will sort themselves out, or if you started with resource consolidation you can build the unity district's on your capital.

I generally start out with machine world home world then use it at first as research, then later change it over to largely unity prod. I have had some games as machine race where I had nearly 2k unity net income at around year 2390 or so.

[FourteenFour]

Gestalt, day one, change your Agenda to Finding the Voice. Don't wait, do it on day one. The unity bonus for machine and hive is too good to ignore. It will cover your first ten years of unity needs very well.

Any empire, build a worship stick by your third or fourth building. That is normally called a Autochton Monument, Corporate Culture Site, Simulation Site, or Sensorium Site. This provides for unity through jobs but also offers the percent bump per ascension perk; for most empires its unity production exceeds the repeatable buildings. I also recommend them on all planets at 25 pop and it can be worthwhile a little below but I have never built them with less than 15 pop. I do take the society research option when available provided nothing better is there.

Watch your edict expenditures. Unless using a mod to remove empire size (I always do) as your empire grows you could easily exceed your edict bank funds.

[BigTurnip]

As machine you will need to focus on it.

If you are doing a virtual rush you will really need to focus on it.

If you play Rogue Servitor you can ignore it and focus on conquest as that translates into unity.

[Alxndr]

Originally posted by FourteenFour:

Gestalt, day one, change your Agenda to Finding the Voice. Don't wait, do it on day one. The unity bonus for machine and hive is too good to ignore. It will cover your first ten years of unity needs very well.

Any empire, build a worship stick by your third or fourth building. That is normally called a Autochton Monument, Corporate Culture Site, Simulation Site, or Sensorium Site. This provides for unity through jobs but also offers the percent bump per ascension perk; for most empires its unity production exceeds the repeatable buildings. I also recommend them on all planets at 25 pop and it can be worthwhile a little below but I have never built them with less than 15 pop. I do take the society research option when available provided nothing better is there.

Watch your edict expenditures. Unless using a mod to remove empire size (I always do) as your empire grows you could easily exceed your edict bank funds.

What is "finding your voice"? I've never seen that.

[Elitewrecker PT]

A council agenda

[CrUsHeR]

Build a simulation site on every planet you colonize / conquer. This also handles a good deal of the required amenities.

And you'll need dedicated unity planets as well. Arc Furnaces and Dyson Swarms can save you tons of minerals / energy production, so there is plenty of room for those.

[Alxndr]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Build a simulation site on every planet you colonize / conquer. This also handles a good deal of the required amenities.

And you'll need dedicated unity planets as well. Arc Furnaces and Dyson Swarms can save you tons of minerals / energy production, so there is plenty of room for those.

I built an uplink node which turns energy into unity and looking at the details, they both seem to provide the same amount of unity?

I guess the main issue I'm having is knowing what to build in the early game. Some people tell me to build tech so I don't fall behind in development, others tell me to build unity so I can get traditions faster, others tell me to build forge and energy so I can build up my fleets and expand faster etc.

So I'm kinda just doing a bit of everything.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Yes but simulation site is a 1 per planet thing that boosts unity production on top of producing some unity itself, while uplink node is the main source of unity jobs since it's repeatable.

You should build some of everything, but the key is knowing where to build the stuff.
Ideally you have dedicated planets, with your capital being your first advanced resource planet (usually research due to its special designation being able to boost the output of researchers).

[pauloandrade224]

Originally posted by FourteenFour:

Gestalt, day one, change your Agenda to Finding the Voice. Don't wait, do it on day one. The unity bonus for machine and hive is too good to ignore. It will cover your first ten years of unity needs very well.

Any empire, build a worship stick by your third or fourth building. That is normally called a Autochton Monument, Corporate Culture Site, Simulation Site, or Sensorium Site. This provides for unity through jobs but also offers the percent bump per ascension perk; for most empires its unity production exceeds the repeatable buildings. I also recommend them on all planets at 25 pop and it can be worthwhile a little below but I have never built them with less than 15 pop. I do take the society research option when available provided nothing better is there.

Watch your edict expenditures. Unless using a mod to remove empire size (I always do) as your empire grows you could easily exceed your edict bank funds.

whats that mod u use? i want it too

[Alxndr]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Yes but simulation site is a 1 per planet thing that boosts unity production on top of producing some unity itself, while uplink node is the main source of unity jobs since it's repeatable.

You should build some of everything, but the key is knowing where to build the stuff.
Ideally you have dedicated planets, with your capital being your first advanced resource planet (usually research due to its special designation being able to boost the output of researchers).

This is a screenshot of my game so far https://i.imgur.com/8tNuvUW.png

I'm at year 2232 and I've only just unlocked my second tradition :/

When I watch montu plays, he is playing machine race and has 4 traditions already at this time in the game.

[bri]

Combination of too few workers producing unity and more leaders than you can afford.