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Kuriohara Jun 10, 2024 @ 12:44pm
Mercenary Enclave
So I try to keep up on the enclaves I have hired out and I went to go extend the contract of one, and it says "Nothing to offer." Why would it say that when I'm still in control of their fleet and my contract hasn't ended?

Is this what it looks like if their patron forces them to recall?

TIA.
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Geoff Jun 10, 2024 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Kuriohara:
So I try to keep up on the enclaves I have hired out and I went to go extend the contract of one, and it says "Nothing to offer." Why would it say that when I'm still in control of their fleet and my contract hasn't ended?

Is this what it looks like if their patron forces them to recall?

TIA.
I've had that problem when their fleet gets annihilated while I've rented it. It won't let me extend the contract until they've rebuilt the fleet, and an AI power usually gets to it first.

The other context I've seen it occur is when their citadel is in a system which has closed borders to me. I think they can't rent you the fleet in that context.
Kuriohara Jun 10, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by Geoff:
Originally posted by Kuriohara:
So I try to keep up on the enclaves I have hired out and I went to go extend the contract of one, and it says "Nothing to offer." Why would it say that when I'm still in control of their fleet and my contract hasn't ended?

Is this what it looks like if their patron forces them to recall?

TIA.
I've had that problem when their fleet gets annihilated while I've rented it. It won't let me extend the contract until they've rebuilt the fleet, and an AI power usually gets to it first.

The other context I've seen it occur is when their citadel is in a system which has closed borders to me. I think they can't rent you the fleet in that context.

I wondered that, too, but I rented a fleet with closed borders a couple in game years ago. Could it be a glitch on that end? Was I not supposed to be able to rent that fleet? I appreciate the reply though. Been confusing.

I just gave up and let them end their contract, then used the other fleets I had in the same system to destroy their fleet before they left. lol I only really hire mercenary enclaves to take any advantages away from the AI.
Patty Walnuts Jun 10, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
They are probably stuck in reinforcement at the enclave, you might have to wait for them to finish consolidating or something dumb.

The AI will probably also rent them out like the wonderfulpeople.exe they are.

This usually happens to me when I try and force consolidate their giant pile of individual fleets at their respective enclaves in order to free up some of that late game lag.

Honestly best thing to do is just press tilde key, and damage 1000000 the fleet until it dies in a paused state to refresh the fleet itself.
Geoff Jun 10, 2024 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by Kuriohara:
I wondered that, too, but I rented a fleet with closed borders a couple in game years ago. Could it be a glitch on that end? Was I not supposed to be able to rent that fleet? I appreciate the reply though. Been confusing.
Yeah, that's one of those areas where it doesn't help that they reinvent the game every few weeks. It's hard to know anything with confidence, and it could very well be a mechanic they've tweaked several times.

Originally posted by Kuriohara:
I just gave up and let them end their contract, then used the other fleets I had in the same system to destroy their fleet before they left. lol I only really hire mercenary enclaves to take any advantages away from the AI.
Yeah. I found they could be useful for saving me the hassle of building my own corvettes. Throw them into the scrum first, let them catch the first volley then drop in your big guns a day behind. Of course, that's also how you end up getting their whole fleet annihilated.

It's easier to keep them hired when they're based in your territory than I originally realized. You can stack extensions to their contract term, though I've never done more than a couple decades at a time. I'm not sure if there's an outer limit to that.
Kuriohara Jun 10, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Patty Walnuts:
They are probably stuck in reinforcement at the enclave, you might have to wait for them to finish consolidating or something dumb.

The AI will probably also rent them out like the wonderfulpeople.exe they are.

This usually happens to me when I try and force consolidate their giant pile of individual fleets at their respective enclaves in order to free up some of that late game lag.

Honestly best thing to do is just press tilde key, and damage 1000000 the fleet until it dies in a paused state to refresh the fleet itself.

Lol. Yeah, I love that. What I love is when things get away from me a little bit, and the window about the fleet pops up with like two others that also affect pause, and I'm in the middle of something and I'm hitting the spacebar because I'm all confused and they get bought out in the literal 2 seconds of unpaused time.

Also I'm not sure. They've been sitting at a starbase for a year or so, and I haven't been at war for a little over a year. I didn't think they were recouping, but who knows. Truthfully at the end of the day it doesn't matter because it was a tiny fleet I was just trying to keep away from an AI I plan to fight next so I just turned on them, but it's little stuff like that I roll my eyes at Paradox about. lol

Appreciate the reply.
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