Galactic market is too random

[jojobe]

I have the most trade value than anyone on the map plus with the boost on and do not ever get it. lost out to a system with 33 trade value and mine is 304 how...

[Immortalis]

99% chance of getting it still ain't 100%.

And you don't get 99% chance at that.
No need to spam the forum either, let alone revive long dead threads.

Keep on playing and pick the decision to replace the Galactic Market and/or conquer the current hosting planet.

[jojobe]

Originally posted by Immortalis:

99% chance of getting it still ain't 100%.

And you don't get 99% chance at that.
No need to spam the forum either, let alone revive long dead threads.

Keep on playing and pick the decision to replace the Galactic Market and/or conquer the current hosting planet.

do not tell me what to write...say your opinions and let the person talk.

[Immortalis]

Originally posted by jojobe:

Originally posted by Immortalis:

99% chance of getting it still ain't 100%.

And you don't get 99% chance at that.
No need to spam the forum either, let alone revive long dead threads.

Keep on playing and pick the decision to replace the Galactic Market and/or conquer the current hosting planet.

do not tell me what to write...say your opinions and let the person talk.

Dude, spamming is against the forum rules, as is necroing old threads. That's not my opinion, it's forum rules -.-

[flame from Halo]

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Trade#Galactic_market

It is tragic to say but most of the time you will not get your nomination unless you are a Megacorp/own a ecumenopolis. Even then the scales are balanced against the player since you must win against all nominees combined.

You can make your odds better though if you guarantee the initial nomination rating is [strong] since you can max boost to [perfect]. If you don't get strong you can simply revoke the nomination and reapply it til you no longer get [weak]/[adequate].

With those two things in mind even if you are a [perfect] nominee with 300 trade power you only have (6x300)^1.5 or about 76k winning weight, which would be substantial before considering the other empires. If 10 other empires have on average 80 trade value and get [adequate](which they will always boost twice to become [exceptional]) or (5x80)^1.5x10 then you will still only have about a 50/50 chance of winning the nomination, and most empires that existed at the start of the game will very often exceed that 80 estimation by the time the first market raffle comes up.

Edit: I made an angry post about this same thing ages ago, so I know the feeling, but the cold hard truth is that Paradox doesn't want the player to get the nomination most of the time unless they work REALLY hard for it, and even then you basically never win the first raffle. The comment in question

[Unimportant]

lmao

[jojobe]

Originally posted by flame from Halo:

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Trade#Galactic_market

It is tragic to say but most of the time you will not get your nomination unless you are a Megacorp/own a ecumenopolis. Even then the scales are balanced against the player since you must win against all nominees combined.

You can make your odds better though if you guarantee the initial nomination rating is [strong] since you can max boost to [perfect]. If you don't get strong you can simply revoke the nomination and reapply it til you no longer get [weak]/[adequate].

With those two things in mind even if you are a [perfect] nominee with 300 trade power you only have (6x300)^1.5 or about 76k winning weight, which would be substantial before considering the other empires. If 10 other empires have on average 80 trade value and get [adequate](which they will always boost twice to become [exceptional]) or (5x80)^1.5x10 then you will still only have about a 50/50 chance of winning the nomination, and most empires that existed at the start of the game will very often exceed that 80 estimation by the time the first market raffle comes up.

thank you someone posted me about it. Its a let down to race to to build your economy up to get to that point and it random. Im in a long and drawn out war and running through cash as fast as i get it that would have help some. thanks for the response.

[flame from Halo]

Originally posted by jojobe:

thank you someone posted me about it. Its a let down to race to to build your economy up to get to that point and it random. Im in a long and drawn out war and running through cash as fast as i get it that would have help some. thanks for the response.

It is important to remember that you can always push to re-locate the market with a proposal, but it will always be mostly/somewhat random. Unless you have an Ecumenopolis early/mid game it is more likely than not an enemy will get the market seat with the way it is balanced, and even if you somehow manage to get 80% chance you can still lose. (I have lost before with 700 trade value ecumenopolis with a perfect nomination, it is bs sometimes)

[jojobe]

Originally posted by flame from Halo:

Originally posted by jojobe:

thank you someone posted me about it. Its a let down to race to to build your economy up to get to that point and it random. Im in a long and drawn out war and running through cash as fast as i get it that would have help some. thanks for the response.

:B1::cozyspaceengineersc:

It is important to remember that you can always push to re-locate the market with a proposal, but it will always be mostly/somewhat random. Unless you have an Ecumenopolis early/mid game it is more likely than not an enemy will get the market seat with the way it is balanced, and even if you somehow manage to get 80% chance you can still lose. (I have lost before with 700 trade value ecumenopolis with a perfect nomination, it is bs sometimes)

thanks again...all I have to say is "i rightfully won that election and they stole it from me", If i do not lose i should bombard their capital down they wont be so pretty then.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by jojobe:

thanks again...all I have to say is "i rightfully won that election and they stole it from me", If i do not lose i should bombard their capital down they wont be so pretty then.

The first time it happened to me, I conquered the winner's homeworld, then sold his entire population off into slavery on the galactic market based in their system. There are definitely cruel but poetic avenues of retribution available when a small empire wins.