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Revontulet May 28, 2024 @ 12:20am
I want to subjugate a subject...
...and not conquer a new world. Especially within six systems of my home world.

More and more I like tall and not being able to make a vassal within five systems of my home world is obnoxious. Allow me here, since this is my post, to just complain about how stupid this is. Especially on a tiny map you just can't vassalize ANYone. Its dumb.

So to that end, how do I get the subjecation war goal? Sometimes I have it. Sometimes I don't. I want it always.
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arronax06 May 28, 2024 @ 12:25am 
You need to be on average stronger than your target to have this war goal. So having a bigger fleet might not be enough if they have better tech or economy :)
Geoff May 28, 2024 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by Revontulet:
So to that end, how do I get the subjecation war goal? Sometimes I have it. Sometimes I don't. I want it always.
There's a handy chart here: https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Subjugation_wargoals

But yeah, basically you just have to be substantially more powerful than them. I'm not aware of there being a restriction on vassalizing empires close to you. I don't think I've ever run into that problem, though I'm not sure how many times I've even tried it. I've definitely had voluntary vassals within that distance.

EDiT: Oh, I think I see how I misunderstood your meaning there. To carve a vassal out of your own systems, you have to create as sector then release it as a vassal. A workaaround you might want to consider is releasing them just outside of the limit and then gifting them the systems you want them to have that are closer in. Moving your capital might also work. Neither of which makes it less frustrating, but might at least help you get where you're trying to go.
Last edited by Geoff; May 28, 2024 @ 1:16am
HappySack May 28, 2024 @ 1:55am 
Just conquer them and release a vassal out of them.

To do this you can just dismantle any area within the territory you don't want so you can carve out an "island" to make your own vassal, it's essential to do when playing a trade build so you can make your own federation to get your juicy trade policy.
Last edited by HappySack; May 28, 2024 @ 1:12pm
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Date Posted: May 28, 2024 @ 12:20am
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