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Can you change one species to another?
I'm trying to make what can only be described as an evil corporation hellbent on ending war forever (genocide) via turning every pop in the galaxy into their own race. I already have it set to Letters of Marque to unlock the raiding war type, and I intend to take Nihilistic acquisition to steal and enslave pops.

So the only part that remains is if there's a way to genetically alter a species and turn it into one of your own species. And I don't mean turning pops into something like necrophages, i'm asking if there's a way to turn a human into an arthropod (with arthropod in this example being your original race) and have it be counted as your original species.
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Elitewrecker PT Jan 3, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
No.
Unless it's robots
Last edited by Elitewrecker PT; Jan 3, 2024 @ 3:58pm
BrutalGlory Jan 3, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
No.
Unless it's robots
Ah I figured. That's a shame - robots wouldn't quite fit the theme :(
CthuluIsSpy Jan 3, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
Take synth or necrophage. Its the only way.
Sadly, genetic ascension doesn't allow that, but then again, that would be treading on synth ascension's toes.
BrutalGlory Jan 3, 2024 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by CthuluIsSpy:
Take synth or necrophage. Its the only way.
Sadly, genetic ascension doesn't allow that, but then again, that would be treading on synth ascension's toes.
Yeah, but having messed up goals is fun.
You would need to make a mod based on the robot pop-assimilation mechanics.
counternev -BG- Jan 3, 2024 @ 5:47pm 
if i remember correctly the hive mind can do something like this and if not in the vanilla game i believe there is a mod for this
BrutalGlory Jan 3, 2024 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by counternev -BG-:
if i remember correctly the hive mind can do something like this and if not in the vanilla game i believe there is a mod for this
Yeah you can as a hive. Just wanted to do it as a regular bio civ.
Elitewrecker PT Jan 4, 2024 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by counternev -BG-:
if i remember correctly the hive mind can do something like this and if not in the vanilla game i believe there is a mod for this
You can make them hive minds, but as far as I recall you can't cluster every pop into a single main species - can't change their portrait species.
monkeypunch87 Jan 4, 2024 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by BrutalGlory:
I'm trying to make what can only be described as an evil corporation hellbent on ending war forever (genocide) via turning every pop in the galaxy into their own race. I already have it set to Letters of Marque to unlock the raiding war type, and I intend to take Nihilistic acquisition to steal and enslave pops.

So the only part that remains is if there's a way to genetically alter a species and turn it into one of your own species. And I don't mean turning pops into something like necrophages, i'm asking if there's a way to turn a human into an arthropod (with arthropod in this example being your original race) and have it be counted as your original species.
Yes, you can do it, kind of.
With the genetic tree you can change the portait and the name of the species of every species to the same as your original species. But you can't turn them in the same species tab like you can with synthetics.
BrutalGlory Jan 4, 2024 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by monkeypunch87:
Originally posted by BrutalGlory:
I'm trying to make what can only be described as an evil corporation hellbent on ending war forever (genocide) via turning every pop in the galaxy into their own race. I already have it set to Letters of Marque to unlock the raiding war type, and I intend to take Nihilistic acquisition to steal and enslave pops.

So the only part that remains is if there's a way to genetically alter a species and turn it into one of your own species. And I don't mean turning pops into something like necrophages, i'm asking if there's a way to turn a human into an arthropod (with arthropod in this example being your original race) and have it be counted as your original species.
Yes, you can do it, kind of.
With the genetic tree you can change the portait and the name of the species of every species to the same as your original species. But you can't turn them in the same species tab like you can with synthetics.
You know what - that's actually a good idea. I didn't know you could change the portrait. I'll take it, thanks!
VulpesFulguralis Jan 4, 2024 @ 8:03am 
Not in vanilla but i know of mods that can.
Oakshadow Jan 4, 2024 @ 8:14am 
The way the species tab works changing the portrait or matching a species name doesn't actually change anything.

Each species has an origin template and then all changes to that template create subspecies, regardless of how you alter them.

The reason this matters is because you can never spawn a new species out of your origin species. In other words a new template branched off your original species can't be enslaved as if its a foreign species. (either by being authoritarian or xenophobe)

If that's not your goal than I wouldn't worry about it. But understand the mechanics behind it will limit exactly what you can do in terms of dividing pops into specialized rolls.
monkeypunch87 Jan 4, 2024 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Jay:
The way the species tab works changing the portrait or matching a species name doesn't actually change anything.

Each species has an origin template and then all changes to that template create subspecies, regardless of how you alter them.

The reason this matters is because you can never spawn a new species out of your origin species. In other words a new template branched off your original species can't be enslaved as if its a foreign species. (either by being authoritarian or xenophobe)

If that's not your goal than I wouldn't worry about it. But understand the mechanics behind it will limit exactly what you can do in terms of dividing pops into specialized rolls.

Nobody claimed that it would change anything. It seems more like a role-playing thing and I can understand OP in that regard and tried to deliver a solution. OP didn't even write anything about special roles.

You are able to change all species by portrait, name and traits to be like your original species. That is good enough.
Last edited by monkeypunch87; Jan 4, 2024 @ 8:33am
BigTurnip Jan 4, 2024 @ 8:33am 
You can Necro purge via the Necrophage Origin
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Date Posted: Jan 3, 2024 @ 3:57pm
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