Is psionic theory nolonger needed?

[Eldrin]

I could have sworn the last time i played this to get mind over matter one needed psionic theory, i currently do not have that but i can get mind over matter?

[monkeypunch87]

Yeah, it is changed a while ago. Mind over matter unlocks the Psionic Tradition tree.

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Traditions#Psionic

[Azor]

Correct.

Also, selecting the Mind Over Matter ascension perk unlocks a Government Agenda which progresses by Psionic Theory 25% and unlocks as a permanent research option. You still need Psionic Theory in order to progress through the Psionics tradition tree.

[Eldrin]

Originally posted by Azor:

Correct.

Also, selecting the Mind Over Matter ascension perk unlocks a Government Agenda which progresses by Psionic Theory 25% and unlocks as a permanent research option. You still need Psionic Theory in order to progress through the Psionics tradition tree.

That has to be the greatest change ever made, now you can actually build for that ascension with out hoping for RNG or taking a specific origin.


However does one even have to be spiritualist anymore to go psionic? Hardcore materialists can now go psionic?

[monkeypunch87]

Originally posted by Eldrin:

However does one even have to be spiritualist anymore to go psionic? Hardcore materialists can now go psionic?

Yes.
Only the Origin "Teacher of the Shrouds" locks you in the Psionic path, every thing else is free for all (except Gestalts).

[corisai]

Originally posted by Eldrin:

That has to be the greatest change ever made, now you can actually build for that ascension with out hoping for RNG or taking a specific origin.

Actually it's buffing Synths the most as getting tech for Psionic / Bio ascension was trivial and easy.

Originally posted by Eldrin:

However does one even have to be spiritualist anymore to go psionic? Hardcore materialists can now go psionic?

For long-long time you don't need to be a Spiritualist to became Psionic and weak Materialists could pick it (even if it isn't worth it for them). Even fanatic Materialist could go psionic before but only via rolling a Psionic scientist.

Sad that now game no longer trying to be a space opera and not a cheap fantasy >_<