Releasing Sector as Vassal

[Trevor Drakenor]

It took me several years, before I realized that you can actually create your own vassal without catering to filthy xenos.

But here's the thing.... how does this work? Does the AI vassal created in this way get their own starting resource? Magic their fleets in, get free building like the wretched rebels do by teleporting 100k fleet? Or do I have to prepare them so they are capable themselves to some degree before doing so? Currently weighing whether its worth doing so.

[Garatgh Deloi]

You need to prepare them. At the very least i would give them some basics and upgrade a starbase above their capital with a shipyard. That said, they will start out with all your tech's so they should grow a lot quicker then a normal empire would at the start.

Main reason it might be worth doing is that they would have their own pop growth penalty rather then being bound by yours. Its also nice if you want to create a easy vassal or federation (for example trade federation for the trade policy).

If you want you could always integrate them again in the future once they grow enough population.

[Trevor Drakenor]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

You need to prepare them. At the very least i would give them some basics and upgrade a starbase above their capital with a shipyard. That said, they will start out with all your tech's so they should grow a lot quicker then a normal empire would at the start.

Main reason it might be worth doing is that they would have their own pop growth limits rather then being bound by yours. Its also nice if you want to create a easy vassal or federation (for example trade federation for the trade policy).

Ahh, so I have to grow them like trees before letting them do their things. I assume hostile AI would immediately try to take over them, a fleet should be placed to guard them while they get their own military up.

Having minimum jump distance of at least 5 from main sector seems a bit much though. I have a start where there is 2-3 planet in system that are all under 5 jump. Can't distribute them even when we did make a new sector close to it.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Originally posted by Trevor Drakenor:

filthy xenos

Just be aware that if you release a sector as a vassal they will share your empire's ethics, such as xenophobia. Also keep in mind that two xenophobic empires that share a common species are still likely to hate each other... xenophobia in this context meaning not only racism but also fear of anything that "isn't us", including other empires.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Originally posted by Trevor Drakenor:

I assume hostile AI would immediately try to take over them

When you release them as a vassal they will start as your vassal, so another empire would have to go through you to take them over. You just need to make sure you are strong enough to prevent that from happening.

[Trevor Drakenor]

Hmm I have always wondered why and how that be, good things my people tolerate ourselves. Xenophobic seems to harm themselves using this method.

Hmm... if there aren't a lot of planet distant away from the core sector. I guess having habitat unlocked before releasing vassal would solve a lot of expansion issue for new vassal.