Does AI still poop 10,000 strong fleets?

[Wraitteli]

Does AI still poop 10,000-strong fleets out of the blue, even for tiny empires, or have they fixed that?

[Ogami]

I mean, if you are talking about 10k fleet power, i can do that easily with just one world.
Thats nothing and more depending on tech level then anything else.
So i dont think its unrealistic if small AI empires field fleets of that size.

The only time i find the AI "spawn" of fleets annoying is with rebellions or newly ascended Pre FTL civs, who just get a big free fleet out of nothing.

[Wraitteli]

Originally posted by Ogami:

I mean, if you are talking about 10k fleet power, i can do that easily with just one world.
Thats nothing and more depending on tech level then anything else.
So i dont think its unrealistic if small AI empires field fleets of that size.

The only time i find the AI "spawn" of fleets annoying is with rebellions or newly ascended Pre FTL civs, who just get a big free fleet out of nothing.

Yeah, the enemy empire that fleets you have destroyed suddenly spawns 10,000-strong fleets out of the blue. It is very annoying.

[Eldrin]

last time i played was in july and then my issue with the game was that even on the hardest difficulty i roll over the AI like a joke. So even if it did, i do not see it as a problem.

[corisai]

10k is a nothing.
Even 100k isn't notable in defaul late-game.

UPD. Ability to hire mercenaries (that's how normal empires could recieve "instant" fleets) is still in the game.

[Druark]

The AI does this because they built the economy to do it. They just don't build those ships until they're expecting a war. They sell off all their un-needed resources to buy up alloys.

You can do the exact same thing as a player, it just takes some clicking. The other way is by hiring mercenaries.

[Azor]

I'm going to assume you played Stellaris for a few hours and have very little idea about how the game works, so let me educate you.

The AI can not spawn fleets out of nowhere. Just like you, AI has to spend alloys to build fleets using shipyards.

Fleets may appear to have spawned for no reason but that does not happen. There are three ways to acquire fleets without building them: hire them from Marauders for an amount of Energy, hire them from Mercenary Enclaves for an energy cost (or for free if the Enclave is owned by the player or player-AI who hired them), or receive a small fleet as a gift from Fallen Empires that have positive relations (empires with the Scion origin are more likely to receive a gift).

Another way a fleet may seem to appear for no reason, is after going missing-in-action. A combat rarely finishes with every fleet destroyed. If any ship survives, the defeated fleet will go 'missing-in-action and reappear at a starbase selected by the player or player-AI (iirc the capital is the default retreat location) after some time has passed in-game.

Most empires generated during the game also receive a fleet in order to not be destroyed as soon as they are generated. Notably Machine Rebellions and ascended pre-FTL civilizations.

[APhoenixSoaring]

Originally posted by Azor:

Most empires generated during the game also receive a fleet in order to not be destroyed as soon as they are generated. Notably Machine Rebellions and ascended pre-FTL civilizations.

This sounds like the OPs description.

[Xaphnir]

In my current game each one of my battleships has over 10k fleet power.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by Azor:

Fleets may appear to have spawned for no reason but that does not happen. There are three ways to acquire fleets without building them: hire them from Marauders for an amount of Energy, hire them from Mercenary Enclaves for an energy cost (or for free if the Enclave is owned by the player or player-AI who hired them), or receive a small fleet as a gift from Fallen Empires that have positive relations (empires with the Scion origin are more likely to receive a gift).

Can also use the Zarqlan relic or the Prethoryn Queen relic to spawn a fleet, but I don't think the AI uses that. And awakened empires spawn additional fleets upon awakening.