Biggest Problem with Stelaris or however its spelled.

[FallenShaw]

I put the title that way to represent the fundimental issue with this game and new players to the series. Its UI is so vastly different than any other game out there, that players tend not to play it. I myself am a prime example of this. I bought the game and all dlcs at that time about a year ago.. I booted up. my new game and quickly noticed an Issue, The UI is completely different than any other game. Add that to what is supposed tobe a fairly complex game, and the result is, the game has been sitting in my steam libary unplayed since.

I know players are supposed to want to learn to play the game ect... however the game starts off so boring its hard not to close it after 10 mins of setting up a game to play. By the time you get in the actual game, your already wanted to do something else, and that to me is the fundimental biggest issue with Stelaris. A more engaging intro really should be offered. The only reason I haven't refunded and deleted the game is becausee of the potential that one day I might learn the UI to play a race i made up, though honestly that appeals as much as bashing my head in with a hammer.

[ColorsFade]

It's not nearly as complicated as it looks.

I put off buying the game for a LONG time because I was intimidated by it, and I thought it was going to be overly-complicated. It's not. And the UI is just fine for what the game requires.

If you need some help, I have some very informative tutorials for you. This should have you up-and-running quickly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkQF_RLdLwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75yaV1I8a1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfj-jICwSg&list=PL4hv-Mbo-IfVbzroBaHYXqzh_RIo3ejIw&index=2&t=1s

[Elitewrecker PT]

The reason you haven't refunded it is because you're 1 year past the refund window.
The UI isn't really some monstrosity different than every other strategy game.
Did you try the tutorial messages at all?

[VoiD]

Might be the simplest Paradox game.

[galadon3]

The biggest problem with Stellaris is your inability to write the games name correctly? And somehow that has something to do with the games UI... hmm yea sure, good thing you found out that bad spelling abilities of potential non-players of the game are THE issue.

[FallenShaw]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

The reason you haven't refunded it is because you're 1 year past the refund window.
The UI isn't really some monstrosity different than every other strategy game.
Did you try the tutorial messages at all?

Never seen a tutorial. Have they finally added one, I tried starting games up with a custom race and nothing everytime. And I considered refunding it on day 1, but the possibility that I could play like the zerg from starcraft stayed my hand. Unfortantly after 5 trys theres no tutorial and the ui is confusing

[Elitewrecker PT]

I believe tutorial is disabled if you play as a hive mind, but other than that you have an advisor that gives you general directions on what to do at the start, to send you around the more important menus

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

I believe tutorial is disabled if you play as a hive mind, but other than that you have an advisor that gives you general directions on what to do at the start, to send you around the more important menus

It's disabled for all gestalt empires.

@topic:
Not to be rude or anything, but if taking some time to understand the basics of the UI already exhausts your attention span, then you're probably not the kind of person who'd enjoy Stellaris.

You seem to be looking for lots of instant-action... but that's not at all what's on offer here. The entire game is slow, methodical and complex.

[pipo.p]

Seriously, perhaps there should be a warning that gestalt empires (nor lithoid?) aren't for newcommers.
Let them start with the United Nations of Earth, or however it's named.

[Verios44]

I like the standard Stellaris UI, BUT

With UI Overhaul its even better, and feels more natural with my 1440p display.

Also gonna try a criminal syndicate for the first time soon, should be ibteresting

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Verios44:

Also gonna try a criminal syndicate for the first time soon, should be ibteresting

i suggest you not do branch offices for a while and let worlds develop a bit. otherwise it's more likely they build precinct houses and squash the crime pretty fast.

Originally posted by Ryika:

You seem to be looking for lots of instant-action... but that's not at all what's on offer here. The entire game is slow, methodical and complex.

looking at his reviews along with this it seems like strategy games aren't for him

[galadon3]

I guess its one of those cases where somebody saw that "RTS"-tag on the game wich is TECHNICALLY correct but horribly missleading since people expect to get something like StarCraft when they don't do any further research after looking at tags.

[Geirfinna Lieselotte]

Originally posted by pipo.p:

Seriously, perhaps there should be a warning that gestalt empires (nor lithoid?) aren't for newcommers.

Like the red text saying "Disables Tutorial" that appears when you hover the Gestalt civics ?

[pipo.p]

Honestly, games like Starcraft kind of spoiled the meaning behind "RTS", like most CRPG games spoiled the meaning behind "RPG", but you are right.

Perhaps they should devise another tag for "Action RTS" games, which Stellaris is not.

@Supcrème Grommander: yes, like this one, but not embedded in the middle of an empire creation module. Newcomers get bold these days, and warning that a tutorial is disabled is not like advertising that a campaign is for experienced players only.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

I believe tutorial is disabled if you play as a hive mind, but other than that you have an advisor that gives you general directions on what to do at the start, to send you around the more important menus

It's disabled for all gestalt empires.

@topic:
Not to be rude or anything, but if taking some time to understand the basics of the UI already exhausts your attention span, then you're probably not the kind of person who'd enjoy Stellaris.

You seem to be looking for lots of instant-action... but that's not at all what's on offer here. The entire game is slow, methodical and complex.

Yes I meant hive minds and machine empires. Just specific hive minds since OP mentioned playing like zergs.

[galadon3]

Originally posted by pipo.p:

Honestly, games like Starcraft kind of spoiled the meaning behind "RTS", like most CRPG games spoiled the meaning behind "RPG", but you are right.

to be fair, games like dune 2, command and conquer and warcraft were what actually MADE the RTS-genre, it was just that back then nobody ever envisioned that games with the scope of most of the pdx-games would ever be made as anything other then turn-based games.