who holds you responsible for breaking galactic law?

[CyberWire]

I see some negatives get applied to you if you do this but lets say a ban on indiscriminate bombardment gets passed and you carry on doing it and leave it in your empire policies, and lets say you vasselized everyone in the galaxy. who holds you accountable in this scenario?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Realistically no-one and the community would just disband.
Gameplay speaking - you to yourself

[CyberWire]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Realistically no-one and the community would just disband.
Gameplay speaking - you to yourself

I would apply the debuffs to myself?

[Ryika]

Originally posted by CyberWire:

I would apply the debuffs to myself?

This is what's called "overthinking game mechanics".

[Elitewrecker PT]

Gameplay speaking, your vassals are still community members, so you could say your vassals are sanctioning you (which would be a bit weird). Alternatively, you'd be sanctioning yourself for breaking "galactic law", but in that case you could just vote to repeal the sanctions and/or the law you're breaking.

[CyberWire]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by CyberWire:

I would apply the debuffs to myself?

This is what's called "overthinking game mechanics".

I just want to know how the gameplay works as im my current save this scenario is basically what ive done after starting with hegemony origin and one thing just lead to another and now my empire is 2 star systems with a galaxy of vassels and 1 marauding empire.lets imagine if I vote to abolish slavery but then go on to use slavery myself what will happen? will it fk over my game cause all my vassels go to war against me cause of the double standards or will they not care but debuffs would mess up my economy for using slaves in the first place or will I get away with it and profit from a massive economic boost whilst simultaneously preventing my vassels from ever using slaves to catch up with me economically?

[Elitewrecker PT]

It's unlikely your vassals would go to war just because of you breaking the law.
But yes, you'd get the penalties depending on what sanctions you've passed. But just like you can break the law, so could the AI, so banning slavery doesn't necessarily mean your vassals wouldn't use them either.
And slaves aren't a "massive economy boost"

[Ryika]

Originally posted by CyberWire:

Originally posted by Ryika:

This is what's called "overthinking game mechanics".

I just want to know how the gameplay works as im my current save this scenario is basically what ive done after starting with hegemony origin and one thing just lead to another and now my empire is 2 star systems with a galaxy of vassels and 1 marauding empire.lets imagine if I vote to abolish slavery but then go on to use slavery myself what will happen? will it fk over my game cause all my vassels go to war against me cause of the double standards or will they not care but debuffs would mess up my economy for using slaves in the first place or will I get away with it and profit from a massive economic boost whilst simultaneously preventing my vassels from ever using slaves to catch up with me economically?

Going to war over breaches of Galactic Law isn't really a thing that'll realistically happen in any situation. In terms of diplomacy, the only negative is that you get a relatively small -100 opinion penalty with other members of the GalCom (unless they're also in breach).

The "real" downside are the negative modifiers that are applied by Sanction resolutions. Unless you've stopped the GalCom from passing them, being in Breach usually isn't worth it.

[rafael.ramus]

Originally posted by CyberWire:

I see some negatives get applied to you if you do this but lets say a ban on indiscriminate bombardment gets passed and you carry on doing it and leave it in your empire policies, and lets say you vasselized everyone in the galaxy. who holds you accountable in this scenario?

I don't get it. If you have vassalized everyone, then... repeal the law you are breaking? By then the law is basically... you.

I always assume the Community is a body with its own supranational institutions and ways to enforce it - unlike the United Nations, but more like the European Union, the Russian Federation or the United States.

That being said, in such scenario you would just make the law go your way or leave the community with every single member with you.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Well, apparently he wants to ban slavery (so his vassals aren't incentivised to use it) but wants to use slaves himself.

[CyberWire]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Well, apparently he wants to ban slavery (so his vassals aren't incentivised to use it) but wants to use slaves himself.

well yea was just checking if its a viable thing todo I havent played for too long to know

[IPWIW]

i always pass resolutions i violate,if i cant stop penalty from passing i just leave
btw community can even be empty just ｆｉｎｅ

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by CyberWire:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Well, apparently he wants to ban slavery (so his vassals aren't incentivised to use it) but wants to use slaves himself.

well yea was just checking if its a viable thing todo I havent played for too long to know

Don't pass, or repeal any passed ones, sanctions and it's viable. But won't really make a difference.
You'd be banking on the AI not also breaking the law "just because."

[felmari]

you can have it where your vassels vote as you do but you have to vote. the only thing whether vessel or not is sanctions and a small relation hit with all other community members but you can have where there are no sanctions or the law itself is not apposed to your policies. being a member has a lot of benefits even if sanctioned but you too could not be a part of it where nothing good or bad applies to you and with so many vassels you could have small tax on many of them while still keeping them happy.

[sevensided]

I'm pretty sure you can make galactic law not apply to yourself with a particular resolution.

Addendum: ah yes, constitutional immunity, which you can get access to as a resolution by completing the politics tree

[mysteriasdrassa]

Originally posted by sevensided:

I'm pretty sure you can make galactic law not apply to yourself with a particular resolution.

Addendum: ah yes, constitutional immunity, which you can get access to as a resolution by completing the politics tree

wait, what!?!? i need to pay more attention to some of the newer trees... thats actually pretty awesome