Do governors traits effect each planet in their sector?

[Sedmeister]

I'm a bit confused about governors in 3.8.x.

I assumed that governors assigned to a sector means any bonuses associated with their traits will be applied to all planets in their sector. Yet in a thread I'm following, someone suggested they don't.

Also, if they do, do bonuses stack with a governor assigned to a planet in a sector where there is a governor assigned?

Can anyone confirm any of the above?

[Garatgh Deloi]

As a generalization: Their traits effect the planet they are on. If they are stationed at a sector capital then the worlds in said sector get the buffs from their class and level but not their traits (assuming they aren't being overwritten by a planetary governor).

[HappySack]

It depends on the trait, some only affect the planet while others affect the entire sector and is completely broken.

[Sedmeister]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

As a generalization: Their traits effect the planet they are on. If they are stationed at a sector capital then the worlds in said sector get the buffs from their class and level but not their traits (assuming they aren't being overwritten by a planetary governor).

How do you tell which is which?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Sedmeister:

How do you tell which is which?

What do you mean? Its rather obvious what a trait is, isn't it? Or did you mean what world is a sector capital? It has a special icon on the starmap.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

A governor assigned to the capitol planet of a sector extends their level bonus to all the other planets in the sector that do not have governors. Their trait bonuses, however, should not extend to any other planets.

A governor assigned to a non-capitol planet in a sector should not apply any bonus to any planet other than the one that they govern.

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That's the intent, as I understand it. However, either rigorous consideration of certain traits was not made or those traits are intended to be exceptions to those guidelines in ways that are not clear yet. The result is that some traits (for example, Retired Fleet Officer) do not obey the expected scope (which in that case would be to apply their bonus only to shipyards in the orbital ring of their planet) and instead apply their bonus more widely (in this case, apparently to any shipyard in the sector, even if they are governing a non-sector-capitol planet, and adding up with similar bonuses from other governors in the sector). The outcome is potentially broken (balance-wise).

However, because these exceptions are not well documented (in theory they shouldn't exist) there's no exhaustive list of them yet. Effectively, you'll need to experiment with the traits yourself to see which ones apply in circumstances beyond the guidelines and to what extent. Just keep in mind that if these exceptions are in fact unintentional then at some point Paradox will remove them... so don't get too attached to building all of your ships at a 90% discount (for example).

[Fido]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by Sedmeister:

How do you tell which is which?

What do you mean? Its rather obvious what a trait is, isn't it? Or did you mean what world is a sector capital? It has a special icon on the starmap.

I think he means "which trait affects only a planet, and which trait affects the whole sector".

[Ryika]

There are no traits that affect the whole sector, they're all planet-specific. Only Governor levels affect the whole sector, and that -2% Empire-Size effect from the new Tradition Tree affects the entire Empire.

[Sedmeister]

Originally posted by Fido:

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

What do you mean? Its rather obvious what a trait is, isn't it? Or did you mean what world is a sector capital? It has a special icon on the starmap.

I think he means "which trait affects only a planet, and which trait affects the whole sector".

Yep, this one.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Originally posted by Ryika:

There are no traits that affect the whole sector, they're all planet-specific.

That is presumably the intent, but unfortunately it is not the current reality. If you fish around on YouTube you may be able to find a video where a guy stacks multiple governors with Retired Fleet Admiral to get a 90% reduction to the cost of building ships as well as a boost to ship build speed, within the first 30 or 40 years.

[Ryika]

Originally posted by tempest.of.emptiness:

That is presumably the intent, but unfortunately it is not the current reality. If you fish around on YouTube you may be able to find a video where a guy stacks multiple governors with Retired Fleet Admiral to get a 90% reduction to the cost of building ships as well as a boost to ship build speed, within the first 30 or 40 years.

I mean yeah, modifiers that do not apply to planets in the first place are of course the exception. Didn't think about them when I made the post.

I guess the proper way to phrase it would be that if it can apply to a planet, then it does only apply to the planet.