Extremely confused about conquest now

[Jaspo]

Went to war with positive resource balances in all categories, against an empire with 6 or so systems and about as many planets. Won easily, took their systems. But suddenly was like -200 for every resource balance. Also all the new planets were completely unstable and as soon as I ran out of resources (which of course didn't take long) they all revolted and then poof magic the empire I destroyed reappears in its entirety and meanwhile more than half my fleet magically vanishes? What did they do to this game??? Last played about a year ago and things actually made sense then. Back when there were manageable penalties for running out of resources instead of the current system which appears to be just run out of other resources more to not run out of the one that was the problem, which of course creates a resource death spiral. Oh and meanwhile your entire population everywhere will instantly panic. Great. Just so much fixes to unbroken things until they're broken, it would seem. Don't understand it at all.

[Tactical Drongo]

you just didnt have the industrial capacity to take in the systems of another empire
biting off too much at once

of course it is hard to say what exactly was the big breakpoint without knowing all the details

[ScreamCon]

Stellaris is rng based. Based on your start position you will know 25 years in if you are able to win a game or not. That in if your start is not big enough you might not be able to collect enough resource to win over your neighbour. And thus slowly snow ball your empire.

[Sero]

You don't understand that your pops panic when you run out of food?
Have you been alive the last 3 years? Someone even mentioned that they hope they will still be able to buy toilet paper and a lot of people panicked.

Sounds like you only had minimal surplus of resources and pretty much no stockpiles.
You simply were not ready to integrate several planets.

[HappySack]

You took a bunch of territory and freaked out like a deer staring into headlights when you didn't know how to take on all the upkeep for the planets and newly conquered pops.

But when in doubt slavery fixes everything.

[Jaspo]

Y'all missed the point entirely. I've played full campaigns of this game in years past without issue. What I saw today, makes zero sense in comparison.

Edit: Maybe it had something to do with the conquered empire being necroids? Was I simply unable to use any of their pops or something? So I was paying full maintenance costs with 0 production output in their worlds?

[ScreamCon]

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Y'all missed the point entirely. I've played full campaigns of this game in years past without issue. What I saw today, makes zero sense in comparison.

It sounds like the resource shortage system your experiencing. It was added to stop no resource exploit builds.

[Jaspo]

Publicado originalmente por ScreamCon:

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Y'all missed the point entirely. I've played full campaigns of this game in years past without issue. What I saw today, makes zero sense in comparison.

It sounds like the resource shortage system your experiencing. It was added to stop no resource exploit builds.

But to have only 6 newly accquired planets, in very early game, cost -200 income of each resource makes no sense. How could an AI empire be running such a high deficit? I was playing ensign where they have 0 bonus.

[High Lord Denix]

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Y'all missed the point entirely. I've played full campaigns of this game in years past without issue. What I saw today, makes zero sense in comparison.

If you had 4 people in a row miss the point then that's on you for not getting the point across lol.

You skill issued into a bad situation and death spiralled, take it as a learning experience and do better next time.

[VoiD]

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Publicado originalmente por ScreamCon:

It sounds like the resource shortage system your experiencing. It was added to stop no resource exploit builds.

But to have only 6 newly accquired planets, in very early game, cost -200 income of each resource makes no sense. How could an AI empire be running such a high deficit? I was playing ensign where they have 0 bonus.

Are you playing on a high difficulty?

The AI gets massive economic bonuses, maybe their planets were balanced around having 2x the normal economy of an empire, in other words, not balanced at all, and now you have to pay those costs.

Also, if they are really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unhappy, the planets are extremely unstable due to ideological reasons they are going to be even less productive

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Publicado originalmente por ScreamCon:

It sounds like the resource shortage system your experiencing. It was added to stop no resource exploit builds.

But to have only 6 newly accquired planets, in very early game, cost -200 income of each resource makes no sense. How could an AI empire be running such a high deficit? I was playing ensign where they have 0 bonus.

I've had games where I ran deficits for years. I just sold the stuff I did have to strategically build districts and buildings that would slowly lower that deficit (pop generation buildings, for example). Edicts also helped, of course. Setting all that up always paid off in the long term and usually ended with me having full stores of everything.

[Jaspo]

Publicado originalmente por High Lord Denix:

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Y'all missed the point entirely. I've played full campaigns of this game in years past without issue. What I saw today, makes zero sense in comparison.

If you had 4 people in a row miss the point then that's on you for not getting the point across lol.

You skill issued into a bad situation and death spiralled, take it as a learning experience and do better next time.

If people could read it would help immensely. That's not my problem. And if you could all refrain from insulting long enough to actually be helpful, that would make me a lot happier. People these days.

[Jaspo]

Publicado originalmente por VoiD:

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

But to have only 6 newly accquired planets, in very early game, cost -200 income of each resource makes no sense. How could an AI empire be running such a high deficit? I was playing ensign where they have 0 bonus.

Are you playing on a high difficulty?

The AI gets massive economic bonuses, maybe their planets were balanced around having 2x the normal economy of an empire, in other words, not balanced at all, and now you have to pay those costs.

Also, if they are really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unhappy, the planets are extremely unstable due to ideological reasons they are going to be even less productive.

Good grief I literally just said what difficulty I was playing at and you quote me and ask me what difficulty I was playing at. My word.

[Itsul]

Check to see if the planets you absorbed are being purged of pops. They might just not be able to become a part of your empire.

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por Jaspo:

Publicado originalmente por VoiD:

Are you playing on a high difficulty?

The AI gets massive economic bonuses, maybe their planets were balanced around having 2x the normal economy of an empire, in other words, not balanced at all, and now you have to pay those costs.

Also, if they are really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unhappy, the planets are extremely unstable due to ideological reasons they are going to be even less productive.

Good grief I literally just said what difficulty I was playing at and you quote me and ask me what difficulty I was playing at. My word.

They were likely writing that before your comment was posted. There was just a 5-minute difference between your comment and theirs.

[VoiD]

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