Psionic still needs spiritualists?

[saliddry]

long time no play fo i dtill need to be spiritualists for the psionic path to open ?

[Elitewrecker PT]

You never really "needed" it, it's just a lot easier.

[Gustuv Wynd]

Just need to get psionics...i get it with my fanatic materialists all the time by getting pops from caravaneers that are psycic and then get a researcher from the species to pop up. Bunch of ways you could get that to happen.

Recently I had the base psionics research option just appear on my hive mind game too.

[eastwind]

bo, hust fet sionics

[Stormwind]

You need spiritual for that psionic origin

[frowningmirror]

Originally posted by Stormwind:

You need spiritual for that psionic origin

Technically incorrect. I have got it naturally without spiritualist plenty of times.

First, you need to be a biological empire with no other ascensions. Next, you'll need to have researched six tier 2 sociology technologies (the ones usually at 5000 or so research to learn) to even pull a tier 3 technology. You can then increase the chances of pulling the psionic theory card as follows

8x leading Sociology scientist has Expertise: Psionics trait
2x leading Sociology scientist has Leader trait Maniacal trait
2x Fanatic Fanatic Spiritualist
2x any owned pop has Psionic trait
2x any owned pop has Latent Psionic trait
2x Decision "surreal visions" from Shroudwalker Teacher
1.5x Technological Ascendancy scension perk
0.5x No Spiritualist / Fanatic Spiritualist (this one lowers the chance)

Furthermore, if you are any kind of materialist empire, you need to have a leader with Expertise: Psionics trait or a psionic pop from another empire for Psionic Theory to be available.

There are also a few ways in which Psionic theory is given to biological empires, without even the pulling for the card.

1. Play the Quest for the Toxic God origin. On the 3rd quest, in which someone from the shroud wishes to help you, deny their offer. The next time you're contacted, you'll get the card.

2. Get the Zroni precursors. One of the planets gives it to you for free.

3. Look for Ocean planets. There is a quest where you can talk to the ocean. At its conclusion, you can get the psionic technology.

4. Get incredibly lucky and steal it from a civilization that has it with espionage.

[Sero]

Originally posted by frowningmirror:

Originally posted by Stormwind:

You need spiritual for that psionic origin

Technically incorrect. I have got it naturally without spiritualist plenty of times.

There is no technically. You need to be spiritualist for the Teachers of the Shroud origin.
Pretty sure that is what he meant.

[saliddry]

as stellaris was new you needed spiritualist to go psionic .... since when i play there allways spiritualists i wasnt sure if its still a pre for this mind over matter you need to start the acension but hey so much has changed

[Supply Slut]

Originally posted by saliddry:

long time no play fo i dtill need to be spiritualists for the psionic path to open ?

You do not need to be spiritualist, it just increases your chances of rolling the required tech. The requirement to start the psionic ascension path is to have researched psionic theory - which is a rare tier 3 society tech.

In order to roll this tech you need to have researched 6 tier 2 society techs so that tier 3 will start to appear. After that it’s randomized unless you have teachers origin, find an event/anomaly/precursor that guarantees you can research it.

To improve your odds of rolling the tech try as much of the following as possible:

-hire a scientist with either psionic theory (best) or maniacal (second best) - or both - and have them work society research.

-select the technological ascension perk which gives 50% greater chance to roll rare techs

-try to get at least one pop with psionic or latent psionic trait

-increase number of tech options you get each roll.

-if this is a priority and you don’t roll the tech (but are rolling tier 3 techs) - select the fastest tech option so you will get another chance again faster

Once you’ve finally researched psionic theory you can go down the ascension path. Being spiritualist doubles (I think) your chance to roll the tech - but it’s not mandatory.

[Azunai]

You never needed to be spiritualist for psionics. You have a better chance at drawing the tech as spiritualist, but that's just a bonus, not a prerequisite.

[mss73055]

If you got a maniac scientist with technology ascension you will find Psionics about every game.

I noticed I even can get synthetics with psionic research specialisation. This is unmodded Stellaris.