research speed is a joke!

[romannets]

Excruciating. at this rate i will be at endgame crisis and i will still be on base level tech. also movement speed without FTL is a real drag.

[Shad]

Originally posted by romannets:

Excruciating. at this rate i will be at endgame crisis and i will still be on base level tech. also movement speed without FTL is a real drag.

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

[Stormsong]

Originally posted by Shad:

Originally posted by romannets:

Excruciating. at this rate i will be at endgame crisis and i will still be on base level tech. also movement speed without FTL is a real drag.

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

This.

[Army Pea]

Originally posted by Shad:

Originally posted by romannets:

Excruciating. at this rate i will be at endgame crisis and i will still be on base level tech. also movement speed without FTL is a real drag.

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

Absolutely 100%

Stay close to the cap and watch the cruisers come off the line by 2260

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Army Pea:

Originally posted by Shad:

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

Absolutely 100%

Stay close to the cap and watch the cruisers come off the line by 2260

Or completely ignore the cap and make a tech world giving you 10 times the research you have while adhearing to the cap (and you need a mighty empire indeed if your getting 10 times tech cost and even if you have gotten that far just make another tech world :D)...

[lozacenz]

I've found that the techs start out taking longer to research, but your research point production ramps up a lot faster, so on balance they're probably faster to reseach once you get going. Does make the early game a bit slower though.
Just my experiance though, I haven't done any maths for it.

[Azor]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

Originally posted by Army Pea:

Absolutely 100%

Stay close to the cap and watch the cruisers come off the line by 2260

Or completely ignore the cap and make a tech world giving you 10 times the research you have while adhearing to the cap (and you need a mighty empire indeed if your getting 10 times tech cost and even if you have gotten that far just make another tech world :D)...

^^

[Crim]

Originally posted by Shad:

Originally posted by romannets:

Excruciating. at this rate i will be at endgame crisis and i will still be on base level tech. also movement speed without FTL is a real drag.

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

Originally posted by Shad:

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

This.

Would love a screenshot with of either one of you pushing repeatables at the 100 year mark (or less)

Without obvious mods or setting the game to quick techs... of course

[mcsproot]

Get more scientists. Problem solved.

[mcsproot]

Originally posted by Talamare:

Originally posted by Shad:

Research is so much faster in this version, you start pushing repeatable within 100 years.

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

This.

Would love a screenshot with of either one of you pushing repeatables at the 100 year mark (or less)

Without obvious mods or setting the game to quick techs... of course

I can't provide screenshots of when I first saw repeatable tech in my current game as I'm playing Ironman, but I'm able to research a +12 repeatable tech in 50 months...for Society.

Hive Minds in particular are over powered for Society research. I'm getting 3 or 4 times as much Society as I am Physics and Engineering. So I certainly saw repeatable tech showing up quite early. I certainly saw repeatable Society tech prior to the Khan showing up, and I set my mid game to 2350.

And that is with x1 tech cost.

[Logoski]

Tech starts a bit slower but it takes very little effort to get tech times under 30 months by 2250.

My 2nd game after the update was a technocracy. Had 3 max level research buildings and the tech institute on my home planet. My tech was pushing 4k a month before 2330. Mostly repeatable techs. Could've done more but it felt a little cheap to keep going.

Just keeping an updated tech building on all your planets should keep you far ahead of the ai at this point.

[Crim]

Hive Mind is nice because they turn 6 Mineral into 4 Science, it's quite direct

Normal Races turn 2 CG into 3 Science
Which means they also need Artist to support it at 6 Minerals for 6 CG

[=яενєηąŋŧ=]

It ramps up to ridiculous levels if you specialize and stay under cap. Same with Unity. I'm still on my first 2.2 game and I currently have all my Ascension perks, running every Unity Ambition continuously and researching repeatables in less than 24 months in 2400, and I didn't play nearly as efficiently as I could have.

[utilityguy]

The final stages of the normal research buildings give 30 research across the board, while also having eight jobs for pops to produce... a lot of research. Specializing a planet to be research focus will also more than likely shoot you up in tech like crazy. Maybe not One tech per 5 months on x1 speed crazy, but close.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Talamare:

Hive Mind is nice because they turn 6 Mineral into 4 Science, it's quite direct

Normal Races turn 2 CG into 3 Science
Which means they also need Artist to support it at 6 Minerals for 6 CG

Or they can just convert trade value into consumer goods and pay 0 minerals per science.

[Crim]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by Talamare:

Hive Mind is nice because they turn 6 Mineral into 4 Science, it's quite direct

Normal Races turn 2 CG into 3 Science
Which means they also need Artist to support it at 6 Minerals for 6 CG

Or they can just convert trade value into consumer goods and pay 0 minerals per science.

You don't generate enough Trade Value to counteract population + a ton of researchers