How to break free from being a vasall ?

[theoverseer.timmi]

i am a vassal of someone else, who also put me in a federation. I could declare war to get free, but it is always automatically denied by the federation i am in. I cannot leave the federation since it is always denied - So i am stuck - Any ideas what i could do ?

[Mr.I]

There is a CB called "Leave Hegemony" which allows you to leave the federation by winning the war. If you successfully win the war against the whole federation and your lord, you should be able to leave the federation and retain your vassal status.

Then, you can fight another war 10 years later for independence.

[Carog the Fat]

get a million favours and ask for freedom?

[Rock]

Ye you are stuck in that situation forever. No getting out of that.

[Mentato]

Question is, if you are that bad at the game that you got vassalized, why wish to leave? Enjoy your protection from better-than-you AI players.

[Ninethousand]

https://youtu.be/EZD1f9RTEJU?t=4

Here's a tutorial

[Boris_Stark]

I love these incredibly helpful answers you find on the forums from people who have so little going on in real life that they actually take the time to type out a pathetically superior answer just because they have a need to lord over someone the fact they are better AT A GAME than they are - at the moment.

Anyway, as Carog the Fat said, gain a few favors (I needed 9) and on the Diplo screen with your Overlord, click on [Negotiate Agreement]. Hidden away on the right side of the next screen, right above the picture of your oppressor, click on [End Agreement], and spend the necessary favors.

Oh, and you suck, this game is so easy, I'm so awesome *gag* *gag* go-luum! Go-lum!

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Boris_Stark:

Anyway, as Carog the Fat said, gain a few favors (I needed 9) and on the Diplo screen with your Overlord, click on [Negotiate Agreement]. Hidden away on the right side of the next screen, right above the picture of your oppressor, click on [End Agreement], and spend the necessary favors.

Worth noting that this always has a -50 Acceptance at baseline, so you do need 10 Favors, AND some effect that increases Diplo Acceptance to get to a positive acceptance value.

In the unmodded game, the only such effect is found in the Diplomacy Traditions, so without that tradition, you simply cannot leave the Agreement by asking.

The console Command yesmen can be used to force AI empires to accept any diplomatic request though.

[Adanu]

Originally posted by HyperKnight:

Question is, if you are that bad at the game that you got vassalized, why wish to leave? Enjoy your protection from better-than-you AI players.

From a pragmatic strategy standpoint, he has a point.

[ScreamCon]

You messed up. If you by some miracle get out by a changing of local power you will still have to deal with other empires once you manage to break free. You will be worse off and likely just vassalised again only 50 years down.

Its not really your fault though, more like an area the developers will be working on improving even' more going into the future. Vassal and federation meta

[Cinnamoon_dragon]

Gollum got his own game