Disappointed with Paradox for raising the price of everything

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Hi there,
after the release of the Overlord DLC, we had the last sale and after it ended, paradox increased the price of everything around 30%. For the dollar and euro currency the price has not changed, but for other countries currencies it has. I know it's not everyone's or almost anyone's problem, after all, whether you're getting paid in dollars or euros won't make a difference, but increasing the price of the game to other countries by 10% to 30% isn't fair.

DLCs are very expensive, if you have the base game you will become hostage to a game that will have almost no content to enjoy and to have a complete game experience it is necessary to have all the DLCs, in which the user will have to make a high financial investment to obtain them all. I don't think it's fair for companies to sell their "incomplete" games and have to complete them by adding multiple DLCs and you as a player have to keep acquiring. I know the game is always being updated, getting content, bugs being fixed, the game is always alive, but what is the reason to increase the price of the game to other countries?

1. Nobody is buying the game cheaper than you!

There are people who appear with this argument that they are buying the game cheaper than you, not quite like that. Do you live in a country where you pay in dollar or euro, I know that in many countries in Europe this ends up being a problem of having to pay more, since if you are not in the European block you will suffer from expensive game prices. But there are other countries where the economy is not so bad, the currency is more devalued than the dollar but even so there is no reason for foolish discussion.

2. There is no such thing as buying cheaper in another country

As prices rise, this only makes the situation worse. People can cheat by changing their currency to the neighbor's currency (example is people living in Eastern Europe and changing their Euro currency to Rubles) and then buy the cheaper games and DLCs.
But I'm not in Europe, I live in South America, we don't do that, are games expensive? yes, but we bought. Even though we pay less than others, this prevents piracy from circulating in abundance, but we pay for the game based on our economy, so why would Paradox and other devs want to raise the price of their games now? Was it because of the pandemic? Or why aren't they making a profit?

3. I have a McDonalds empire, what to do to expand worldwide?

If you have a business and want to expand to the world, what will you do? take your product to a poor country and charge a fortune? Your profit will be little, or you will not profit. Many years ago Coke-Cola failed to make a profit in India, for example, his product had failed to sell. I don't know if it's because of the expensive price of each bottle or because the Indians ignored the product, I'm not from there, but it turns out that this will happen to most devs here. (don't take this seriously, please)
Why will I buy a game or DLC that has increased by 30% in value? it used to be expensive but affordable, but why should I pay 30% more? Chances are you wouldn't do that either, or rather, you would be quite disappointed.

I know many won't mind this, but can you imagine suddenly looking at a product that has gone up 30% off the most expensive price? I hope the devs know what they're doing, but I can guarantee that people have never paid more for the product. Stellaris is a great game, but it's not worth all that. Everyone expects a 75% sale on DLCs or packs and with the increase in prices this will decrease the speculations and satisfactions of the players. https://steamdb.info/app/281990/ < check here

I know the topic got big, but I really wanted to vent against these developers. We also want to have fun, everyone is against piracy. But not everyone has the money to invest in games that contain absolutely expensive DLCs. Thanks for reading! 🙏

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The juvenile boy thinks I'm complaining about the low prices in Argentina...
The complaint is the 30% increase in all Paradox games for various countries. Is it difficult to understand this? If you pay for $1 chocolate and tomorrow it costs $5, you will be angry. An idiot example, they notified the changes on their forum, could they have notified it here on Steam? yes, but they didn't. If paradox or another developer created a financial policy of increasing their games by 30% and believing that the balance will be stable, fine, but that won't make people more interested in buying your product.
They don't even put out their old DLCs for more than 50% off, some people complain "DLCs are expensive" nobody cares, but I'm not here asking Paradox to reduce the price of their games and DLCs, just a complaint of a 30% increase. It's easy to understand, because one day it can happen to everyone. But OK, if they need to make money, great, increasing its price and thinking that it will double its sales, I want to see and believe. I will no longer answer anyone. If a moderator wants to close or delete the topic, feel free.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Messaggio originale di danzloblaha13:

Not the only game, example "Company of Heroes 2" the base costs 20€ alone and you can play only Wehrmacht (German) and Soviets
*other 3 factions, Elite Germ, Brits and USA) and many other thinks like unique units , abilities like flares, off map artillery are up to commanders

With DLCs ( 3 factions) you pay whipping 60€ yeaaaaah
not counting the over 15-25 commanders per faction .. each one costs about 3€, skins also cost money :nosangry:

you can get it without paying full price except the DLCs - for factions (but it takes over 600h with single faction reward pool to start gaining solid in-game currency for intern-shop...
you can for 3 won or 4lost games get random crate = currency, skin, small buffs for units, and very very rarely commander ..like 0,5% and less .. in 1200h got only 1 commander... sad
back to prices :
Games can only be managed by buying it cheaply in summer or other sales .. i got that CoH2 for mere 20€ 1€ and DLCs for something 40€ 16€
works for many games so no problem to manage with cheaper ..
-> just checked on google stellaris basic steam key for like 4€
in like 1min found on Eneba
.. to be honest i got Stellaris like less than 2y ago for like about 10€
(O-O)/ lmao just found Ultimate bundle activation key for about 212€ in -10% 148€ that´s pretty good price .. :noshurt:

and if you are less lazy than me then you can just manually buy each/ or just what you want one by one for even less .. not gurranted that all will be available thou

Error on google .. then checked it web itself it showed in shoping cart even lower price of 118€ :noshurt: thats a serious joke (^-^)b .. even 4€ of protection fee and option of refund included already .. wow (of course has base game in the bundle so it very good.

Pff, 150€, you can get everything for like 60-70 during sales outside steam.

[SaD-82]

Messaggio originale di 󠀡:

Oh, a German. If I had known, I wouldn't have argued. You don't understand what I mean

Oh, a dumb person. If I had known, I wouldn't have argued.
Or...is it more of a south american thing? Shall I assume that because you're living in South America you would be dumb? Would this be more along the line of what narrow minded person you are?
It doesn't matter where I live - I'm just no ungrateful brat who complains about having to pay less than others. I'm a person who learned to save up on money when I want to buy something that would cost more than I could afford at some point.
So...what exactly is it: Dumb, ungrateful little spoil or just unable to learn how to work with money and to value things?
Maybe it's the last thing - then you could be able to learn it in coming years. Pdx gave you a chance for this, now. Maybe they will give you another chance in the near future, too...

[Viscount Danku]

This argument is meaningless. Paradox games are easily cracked and stolen dlcs even work in multiplayer no problem. If you can’t afford it, just punish them with the buck - they are the only losing side here.

[Papa Alexandre de Morais]

What's the point of increasing the price of already released and old products? It's digital products there isn't too much"unkept" expenses.

[ScreamCon]

Messaggio originale di 󠀡:

What's your problem? Do you really think it's worth the effort of wasting my time with a teenager like you?

And what would that make you? Some sort of disgruntled mid lifer? The fact that thats the only card you can play into really shows. Why just look you already said that phrase. Your basically like a broken record player. You can't evolve on that point.

Just time it, see how many posts you make in this thread when you eventually decide, 'oh this isn't fun anymore', or decide 'I'm not winning enough'.

Messaggio originale di 󠀡:

They don't even put out their old DLCs for more than 50% off, some people complain "DLCs are expensive" nobody cares, but I'm not here asking Paradox to reduce the price of their games and DLCs, just a complaint of a 30% increase. It's easy to understand, because one day it can happen to everyone. But OK, if they need to make money, great, increasing its price and thinking that it will double its sales, I want to see and believe. I will no longer answer anyone. If a moderator wants to close or delete the topic, feel free.

Fighting against the dying of the light now are you? I seriously still think your in the wrong place when you should be contacting their teams by phone. Its much more effective I tell. If you can't do it by phone you can't do it by forum. Forum is just for people like me to try to solve your questions. Random people who are not paid.

Messaggio originale di Luiz Inácio Bolsonaro:

What's the point of increasing the price of already released and old products? It's digital products there isn't too much"unkept" expenses.

Its not that the prices 'should' be higher, its the expectation that a thread filled with players could have the potential to contact the devs and hope the devs want to lower prices. Which clearly the move was not done by the devs but by the marketing department.

[Veg]

You wrote way too much. Thats tl;dr until you know enough about the subject matter to condense it down into a few lines per point

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

You know that companies have regional pricing because of local tarrifs and special taxes right? Stuff is more expensive in New Zealand because of tarriffs on this, and why some games like Artemis BRidge Simulator isn't sold to there. Not to mention Stellaris not an complete game on vanilla. Paradox isnt the one choosing to do this, blame your government.

Am I missing something here?

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Messaggio originale di Veg:

You wrote way too much. Thats tl;dr until you know enough about the subject matter to condense it down into a few lines per point

Not every topic or discussion CAN be put to a small amount of words. you might be too lazy to read more than a pragraph but most people dont agree with that crap

[Razorblade]

Messaggio originale di Luiz Inácio Bolsonaro:

What's the point of increasing the price of already released and old products? It's digital products there isn't too much"unkept" expenses.

Inflation. The only usable currencies to Paradox are the USD and Euro. If you pay in another currency, it has to be converted to something Paradox can actually use to pay its business expenses.

If a currency has dropped 30% in value against the USD or Euro since Stellaris first released, Paradox is receiving 30% less money today from sales in that country. Thus, it makes perfect (business) sense to increase the price by 30%. Unfortunately, while business rarely increase their pay to combat inflation for their employees, they are more than happy to raise their prices to do so for themselves.

[Radene]

Messaggio originale di Razorblade:

Messaggio originale di Luiz Inácio Bolsonaro:

What's the point of increasing the price of already released and old products? It's digital products there isn't too much"unkept" expenses.

Inflation. The only usable currencies to Paradox are the USD and Euro.

Swedish Kronor would be the most useful, really. Pretty sure that's what they pay their bills in.

[Razorblade]

Messaggio originale di Radene:

Messaggio originale di Razorblade:

Inflation. The only usable currencies to Paradox are the USD and Euro.

Swedish Kronor would be the most useful, really. Pretty sure that's what they pay their bills in.

I suppose it depends on which Paradox you're talking about. PDS probably pays its employees and taxes in Kronor, but I imagine Paradox Interactive deals mostly in global trade currencies. Multinational studio acquisitions and marketing tend to be easier in currencies that are universally accepted.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Messaggio originale di Razorblade:

Messaggio originale di Radene:

Swedish Kronor would be the most useful, really. Pretty sure that's what they pay their bills in.

I suppose it depends on which Paradox you're talking about. PDS probably pays its employees and taxes in Kronor, but I imagine Paradox Interactive deals mostly in global trade currencies. Multinational studio acquisitions and marketing tend to be easier in currencies that are universally accepted.

Good point, also depends on the banking it's using. If all it's money handling is done in dollar and it's taxes and pay are in Sweed....it probably be easier to work in dollar for all btu the payout.