Alpha Centauri much?

[Octarin]

So, this is basically a new take on Sid Meyer's Alpha Centauri, but correct me if I'm wrong. I honestly thought it might be something different, but it follows the exact same tropes and mechanics. I'm disappointed. After all the hype I thought it might be something new. :/

[Ryika]

This game is nothing like Alpha Centauri. Not in tropes, not in mechanics.

[EleventhStar]

yeah im really annoyed at fortnite too, its just a new take on unreal tournament i thought it might be something different.

[Octarin]

Originally posted by Ryika:

This game is nothing like Alpha Centauri. Not in tropes, not in mechanics.

After six hours of gameplay it plays like CIVI. You meet others, they go to war with you, you try to win the race. With almost the same handicaps for being a pacifist.

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Octarin:

After six hours of gameplay it plays like CIVI. You meet others, they go to war with you, you try to win the race. With almost the same handicaps for being a pacifist.

Are you trolling, or do you seriously mean that?
Naming a bunch of stanadard 4x mechanics doesn't make them the same game..

[Octarin]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by Octarin:

After six hours of gameplay it plays like CIVI. You meet others, they go to war with you, you try to win the race. With almost the same handicaps for being a pacifist.

Are you trolling, or do you seriously mean that?
Naming a bunch of stanadard 4x mechanics doesn't make them the same game..

No I'm not trolling, and I do mean that, so far that's all I'm seeing, what is the actual difference? I presume you have played Sid Meyer's civilizations games. You gather resources from nearby blocks, you send out your scout (survey ships) to find other civilizations (races) and resources, your build and upgrade the army (fleet), and around round XXX you are swamped in by the AI who attacks. You can open diplomacy with the other rulers (races), etc etc. So far the only difference is this is in space, and the graphics are far better and you can swivel the maps. And no, I'm not trying to be hostile or toxic, I'm just disappointed because I spent upside of 35 euro for a game I thought would be much more about space exploration and discovery.

[Stormsong]

You've never played Alpha Centauri, nor Stellaris, if this is your take. Even as a joke or "troll" it's just... wrong. Also note, that is not to say nothing is wrong with Stellaris. The people who have already replied to you have made numerous valid complaints about the game. The game has issues. THIS though? Alpha Centauri = Stellaris? Go home, you're drunk.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Congratz, you just reduced literally every real-time/turn-based/4X out there, they are all now identical by grabbing the most basic aspects of the genre.

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Octarin:

I'm just disappointed because I spent upside of 35 euro for a game I thought would be much more about space exploration and discovery.

The game is a lot more about space exploration and discovery than Alpha Centauri. You have Anomalies and you have Archelogical Dig Sites (although they mostly come from DLC) that tell a lot of stories during the discovery phase.

If you feel like that early phase ends too soon, turn off clustered starts and reduce the amount of AI empires in the galaxy. That will give you a lot more breathing room (on average) to go out and explore.

[Octarin]

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

You've never played Alpha Centauri, nor Stellaris, if this is your take. Even as a joke or "troll" it's just... wrong. Also note, that is not to say nothing is wrong with Stellaris. The people who have already replied to you have made numerous valid complaints about the game. The game has issues. THIS though? Alpha Centauri = Stellaris? Go home, you're drunk.

I didn't say there's something wrong with Stelaris. I don't know about the complaints made by the people who have replied to me, either. And I wish I were drunk. You seem to assume too much.

[Octarin]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by Octarin:

I'm just disappointed because I spent upside of 35 euro for a game I thought would be much more about space exploration and discovery.

The game is a lot more about space exploration and discovery than Alpha Centauri. You have Anomalies and you have Archelogical Dig Sites (although they mostly come from DLC) that tell a lot of stories during the discovery phase.

If you feel like that early phase ends too soon, turn off clustered starts and reduce the amount of AI empires in the galaxy. That will give you a lot more breathing room (on average) to go out and explore.

It's what I'm doing in Civi too, so might as well. Good idea. Too bad I have to lose the current save, but I'll backup the folder somewhere.

[EleventhStar]

it sounds like trying a different genre of game might solve your problems.

[faffbot]

Originally posted by Octarin:

Originally posted by Ryika:

Are you trolling, or do you seriously mean that?
Naming a bunch of stanadard 4x mechanics doesn't make them the same game..

No I'm not trolling, and I do mean that, so far that's all I'm seeing, what is the actual difference? I presume you have played Sid Meyer's civilizations games. You gather resources from nearby blocks, you send out your scout (survey ships) to find other civilizations (races) and resources, your build and upgrade the army (fleet), and around round XXX you are swamped in by the AI who attacks. You can open diplomacy with the other rulers (races), etc etc. So far the only difference is this is in space, and the graphics are far better and you can swivel the maps. And no, I'm not trying to be hostile or toxic, I'm just disappointed because I spent upside of 35 euro for a game I thought would be much more about space exploration and discovery.

the examples feature in most games

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Octarin:

Originally posted by Ryika:

Are you trolling, or do you seriously mean that?
Naming a bunch of stanadard 4x mechanics doesn't make them the same game..

No I'm not trolling, and I do mean that, so far that's all I'm seeing, what is the actual difference? I presume you have played Sid Meyer's civilizations games. You gather resources from nearby blocks, you send out your scout (survey ships) to find other civilizations (races) and resources, your build and upgrade the army (fleet), and around round XXX you are swamped in by the AI who attacks. You can open diplomacy with the other rulers (races), etc etc. So far the only difference is this is in space, and the graphics are far better and you can swivel the maps. And no, I'm not trying to be hostile or toxic, I'm just disappointed because I spent upside of 35 euro for a game I thought would be much more about space exploration and discovery.

That's.... Kinda the defining features of the 4x genre...

[EleventhStar]

i hear no mans sky is pretty good nowadays thats about space exploration.

subnautica is pretty cool too if you want exploration and under water is kinda like space?

or try something like SOMA that's pretty cool if entirely from another direction.

maybe frostpunk if you want to keep the building aspect of the game?

[Octarin]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

i hear no mans sky is pretty good nowadays thats about space exploration.

It is. And with free DLCs too. But I've got it on console and my son has hogged that. So, thought I might give a go to the new space exploration game on PC.