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They are not just magical bonuses at no cost that have no impact on your gameplay.
Bulwark, watch your Overlord spilt up and your economy is destroyed. Suddenly your fleet is too big and you lost you Overlord extra resources. Bulwark might not feel like you are under the Overlords thumb but you still are. All of them are if you see it or not.
You are acting like i don't know this. What the problem is, is the AI was using 250+ influence changes i couldn't stop that had me chained into bankrupcty and it didn't happen like this last patch (And i didn't even do the ♥♥♥♥ to absolutely break them). I am not saying i had a problem when the thing broke, i'm saying the overlord i had was doing weird things and breaking the rules that are in place that the AI follows as both subject and overlord outside of this start.
I started out choosing a specialty, and then i immediately got forced into another one as soon as it could be negotiated and it would have taken me mid 300's influence to turn it down, and each change was also that expensive to turn it down (or worse, it was often 500-700 for the last few it did before the empire broke). It then bugged out so that the required minimum caps that are not supposed to be changed were changed. Grabbing 75% of my ♥♥♥♥ from all categories while randomly shifting my vassal type can't be intended and if you think it is then you're obviously one of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who excuse any bug in this game and say it's working as intended.
I mean, because i was being pushed into a bankruptcy every couple months because of this i just kept building up everything and was more broken post civil war and absolutely bodied it but it's still broken. I had like 250 ships all 5-10 days from completion when my last time i went bankrupt happened and the empire screwing with me split. All of my planets are fully built up with a couple low level ♥♥♥♥ planets i colonized and qued up lots of buildings that i then canceled and just used it to end up with capped out minerals at 30k with a bunch of canceled colony ships that i used to embezzle a bunch of food/alloy/consumer goods. The only thing i'm NOT capped on is energy and motes/dust/crystals (Which i've got a bunch of because they kept my a prospectorum for the last 1/2 of my time as vassal and i got like 10 deposits) It's actually MORE overpowered than before, but it's still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded that it's set up like this and it's not particularly fun that you're just using your advanced overlord as your defender while you just game the bankruptcy system because you can't build your empire around any specific thing because your retarded AI is just going to change your specialty in a few months anyhow.
It's not about the choice, my overlord was forcing me to change constantly while also altering the deal (Like not giving a prospectorum the science bonus while also taking 75% of all 3 resources). And while i was a scholarum i was also paying 75% in all resources and science. Game was demanding i pay between mid 200's and 500 influence NOT to change, and early on you certainly don't have that. Even more so if you're doing ANY expanding.
I mean, they forced me into bankruptcy on every single front so if you're doing it just for the luls and to get free ♥♥♥♥, it's even more powerful now than before. You get 40 years or so before the break and you can have yourself go bankrupt enough to cap out ALL your materials if you put them in currently building things (Like colony ships that you never let finish, buildings you cancel etc). It's just really stupid that the change to the overlord from the origin acts so screwed up while i didn't have that problem when i was vassalized in an earlier game today. I gained influence like normal and i had plenty of alloys that i'd reclaim when i needed by canceling ships to build further starbases.
I mean, every few months i got 2-4k in all that i was bankrupt in (basically everything) because of how heavy the taxes were so i could only build up lots of stuff during the bankruptcy so that i'd be set up when the overlord died. I capped out EVERYTHING except energy and the advanced resources although i never got to tier 3 in any of the specialties because of the forced change. I mean, sure my ships only do like half damage but when i have 5x the fleet you do... Well, it's still more than enough to keep everyone out of my space while i recover the debuff.
Yep, did it three times and has displayed similar actions each time. I mean, it's kinda annoying but you can just build all research labs and offer favors to your overlord and not upgrade anything. Go bankrupt constantly because you can't stay a specific type of vassal long (I actually got to rank 2 prospectorum on one run) while doing massive building everytime you do go bankrupt. I consider the start to be the xenophile empire purposely causing our economy to collapse so they can come in and save us each time until their stupidity destroys their empire and i'm left rich as can be with hundreds of ships ready to be built in multiple ship yards. I just took over half of the galaxy about 10 years after my over lord died in one fell swoop as i let all my stuff finish building at once (Cycled cruisers and then battleships to be built) and ended up only losing about half of them because of all the resources my advanced empire got me by forcing me into the broken bankruptcy system.
It's not at all unplayable, it's just annoying even though it's immensely overpowered now. Cause imagine having a 30% penalty to research. And then having 75% of your research taken. You basically just build up LOTS of colonies using robots or something (rip if spiritualist who isn't lithoid) on everything habitable and turn the ♥♥♥♥ worlds into ecuminopolises (or prep them by building districts for it with all that free minerals you'll get every few months from your overlord's seemingly intentional destruction of your economy). And while your research will prolly be trash depending on how the AI sets things up, you can still trade some loyalty for favors to then get into a research agreement to make all the tech they have cheaper for you and if you're focusing on research labs across your empire even with bankruptcy debuff you'll get some decent results (Plus you can level up your scientists when done exploring by assisting multiple worlds).
Although the only difficulty i've done it on is GA with no scaling on, i might test it a bit with a different setting. Maybe that is what's giving them the infinite Influence to not only destroy me but screw with the other vassals they have due to the fact they changed how the overlord functioned in this patch making it more proactive... And if they gave it a huge influence boost alongside everything else in GA that might be what's causing it to just act all spazzy.
It really is a you problem.
AI overlords are very benovelent and more then willing to let you screw them over.
I think it's the difficulty. I tried two attempts with difficulty scaling on, rather than regular grand admiral and the issues stopped immediately. I don't think the AI was doing it as a way to actually make me weaker it was just acting odd as hell which may come from whatever modifiers the AI get from the difficulty and changes they made to the way the vassals work. It didn't actually hinder my empire, and has regularly made it significantly stronger in the long run. Once it was broken i was a little weak from bankruptcy, but i had so many ships and so any fully built up worlds that I just became an economic power house in each run. When you go bankrupt it gives you a huge glut of materials and you can tie them up in building projects that you just don't let complete (for things that would be downgraded or disbanded like the military). It just don't seem like it should do what it's doing, at least when i've run the higher difficulty AI.