Robotic units *Slaves*

[Abisha]

really robotics are being treated like slaves?
so a robotic arm in a factory is also being a slave or my smart phone?.

[Orion Invictus]

If you didn't increase their living standards, yes, they are being treated as slaves.

[CrUsHeR]

Default is servitude, that's all they can get until later game tech unlocks.

[Scr(A)tch]

Mmm no, they have 0 political power etc.

They are treated as pop though, as they are displayed as humanoid robots, not robotic arms.

It does bug me to some extent, especially when I play Spiritualist and my faction is upset. I wish I could just use factory robots and not treat them as pop but heh.

Tropes.

[Danny]

Slavery applies only on SAPIENT beings.
Basic robots barely even have Sentience, let alone Sapience..
They run a set of instructions and cannot think for themselves.

[Abisha]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

If you didn't increase their living standards, yes, they are being treated as slaves.

ah yes i will tomorrow place my smart phone on a golden pillow just to improve living standards

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Abisha:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

If you didn't increase their living standards, yes, they are being treated as slaves.

ah yes i will tomorrow place my smart phone on a golden pillow just to improve living standards

I was obviously talking about the game, but you wouldn't be the first to treat a smartphone as if it were the most important object in your life.

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Abisha:

really robotics are being treated like slaves?
so a robotic arm in a factory is also being a slave or my smart phone?.

I mean, you answered your own question there.

They're "treated like slaves", not "presented as slaves", which makes perfect sense since they're objects that only exist to work, similar to a slave, but different since they're not a person.

[Scr(A)tch]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by Abisha:

really robotics are being treated like slaves?
so a robotic arm in a factory is also being a slave or my smart phone?.

I mean, you answered your own question there.

They're "treated like slaves", not "presented as slaves", which makes perfect sense since they're objects that only exist to work, similar to a slave, but different since they're not a person.

Yeah but they are displayed as pop, which is arguably biased.

The 'Empty shell' Spiritualist faction modifier is baseless, I mean do you hear any evangelist or jihadist voicing over factory robots being against God's will? No one cares really, except for workers losing their jobs.

[Blackspectre]

Originally posted by Abisha:

really robotics are being treated like slaves?
so a robotic arm in a factory is also being a slave or my smart phone?.

Heavy spoiler: Unlike a robotic arm in a factory, these things can gain sentience in this game if you allow it, and they will start "wanting" things.
If you have sentient AI and you don't treat them as your peers among your living, you will promote an AI rebellion in the galaxy, and a Machine uprising will start in your own borders where you lose a huge amount of territory to this new threat, you will face a fate similiar to the Quarians in Mass Effect when the Geth rebelled
This is why certain technologies like Synthetics, Sapient Combat Simulations,
are labeled with a big fat "Dangerous Technology" tag

[mss73055]

Yes, robot is the Hungarian word for slave.

[fmalfeas]

If you research the second or third techs, upgrading them from Robot to Droid or Synth, you have made them self-aware people. If you don't upgrade their living standards at that point, you have made them slaves.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Scr(A)tch:

Originally posted by Ryika:

I mean, you answered your own question there.

They're "treated like slaves", not "presented as slaves", which makes perfect sense since they're objects that only exist to work, similar to a slave, but different since they're not a person.

Yeah but they are displayed as pop, which is arguably biased.

The 'Empty shell' Spiritualist faction modifier is baseless, I mean do you hear any evangelist or jihadist voicing over factory robots being against God's will? No one cares really, except for workers losing their jobs.

No on Earth, but the spiritualist faction apparently would rather everything be man-powered. That or they don't classify current tech factory robots as "robot workers", robot workers have more free movement.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Abisha:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

If you didn't increase their living standards, yes, they are being treated as slaves.

ah yes i will tomorrow place my smart phone on a golden pillow just to improve living standards

i'm pretty sure alexa will be the cause of the future ai uprising

[Scr(A)tch]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by Scr(A)tch:

Yeah but they are displayed as pop, which is arguably biased.

The 'Empty shell' Spiritualist faction modifier is baseless, I mean do you hear any evangelist or jihadist voicing over factory robots being against God's will? No one cares really, except for workers losing their jobs.

No on Earth, but the spiritualist faction apparently would rather everything be man-powered. That or they don't classify current tech factory robots as "robot workers", robot workers have more free movement.

It's precisely where the bias lies. Why would you need humanoid robot 'workers' that you can identify with? R2-D2 is definitely more useful than C3-PO. Even a smartphone is.

What's happening is like:

Spiritualist ruler: "We need robotic units to supplement our workers, but don't forget we don't want them to look like us, as it would go against our sacred beliefs."
Roboticist: "Alas, your Majesty, all attempts to build robots that lack the distinctive features of our species failed."
Spiritualist ruler: "What!? HERESY!!!!!"

[Ryika]

I think that's more a mechanical issue. Robots are presented as Pops because Pops are what works Jobs (or Tiles, in the old system) to produce Resources.