Racism in stellaris

[Sniforge]

This game has gone woke and racist? There's no white Caucasian race now? it used to be number one, and now for some reason black race is one, and the only white race is asian...

Even the portraits of previous saves are now different. I didn't buy this game to have politics inserted into them...

It was already weird that every "negative" advisor voice was male and all "positive or altruistic" advisor voice was female. Now there's this crap on top? Won't buy paradox games anymore.

[BuildTheWall]

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they're a very small percentage still

Exactly, glad to see you can admit you are wrong.

[brownacs]

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I can't believe a dude named BuildTheWall is malding over interracial relationships. I literally cannot believe this is happening. How could we have foreseen this.

Yeah I'm giving up now.

[BuildTheWall]

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I can't believe a dude named BuildTheWall is malding over interracial relationships. I literally cannot believe this is happening. How could we have foreseen this.

Yeah I'm giving up now.

Giving up after admitting you are wrong is only logical, a wise move really.

[ScreamCon]

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Now there's this crap on top? Won't buy paradox games anymore.

Bye, see you later

[vkobe]

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maybe west will turn into homogenize, but it doesnt mean other part in the world will chose west life style

we dont know our future, remember one year ago we didnt expect to be nuclear threat, 3 years ago we didnt expect pandemic will ruin our life, 3 years ago we still think economic will be nice, today we are stuck in high rate inflation

and i am not sure global warming will be nice for us, so our future may be nuclear war, because russia or west push their luck too far or global warming will turn equator into hell oven and provoke massive famine with global nuclear war and other massive destruction weapon

so both scenario can reduce significantly human population in less of one decade and provoke equivalent to bronze age collapsing at global scale

so in stellaris scenario our world is closer to tombworld than spaceborn specie, because nuclear war or global warming

Yeah that's true (and is what I meant by societal change or technological regression). Like I said predicting the future is a mug's game. I probably should have said assuming fairly linear technological progress and no gigantic societal shifts (which are massive assumptions I'm not comfortable with really but let's press on anyway cos otherwise we have to cover infinite hypotheticals) then I'd assume increased homogeneity.

so in hypothesis we become spaceborn, genetic isolation is more relevent, you can have genetic isolation in isolate community in their underground city or space habitat

and genetic isolation is only future for people in their spaceship moving to another solar system, their grand children will become new human specie

technically commonwealth of man should be new human specie and not same human than united nation

i know it is only 2200, but if we play irl commonwealth of man should build their new civ at several thousand light year from earth, maybe at other side of milky way, so commonwealth of man and united nation should not meet each other before several thousands years, maybe at least 10000 or 20000 years

[Chris]

...technically commonwealth of man should be new human specie and not same human than united nation...

"Commonwealth of Man" are descended from artificially selected astronaut colonists that underwent even harsher natural selection while establishing themselves on their new world. It would make sense for Commonwealth men to be far superior to Earthers.

[SnuffSaid]

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Also the basic premise of this thread is wrong. Female phenotype 4 and male phenotype 3 are unambiguously white. Female 3 and male 1, 2 and 4 are all white-passing as well. In contrast, the old portraits had 3 unambiguously white faces each, with one African and one Asian as well. If you think white people, who make up roughly 15% of the world's population, deserve to comprise 60% of the portrait selection, I'm afraid the issue lies with you.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but what percentage of astronauts are white? Let's be honest, the world isn't going to space, the US is. Other than Russia, China and the ESA, nobody else is even in the race.

[Problem Solver]

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They do though, the trend is very obvious and the opposite of what you think it is. Since you admit you don't know what the numbers are then clearly you have some homework to do.

If we looked at the same trends from 200 years ago, do you think mixed race relationships have gone up or down? So in 1820, do you think more people were in mixed race relationships? No, obviously not, so the trend's going in the way I'm describing; it's just not there yet.

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There was a lot of mixed race relationships in the 1800's. European explorers mated with the indigenous people of the lands they explored. In America the pioneers took Native American women as wives. Some of these were consensual others were by conquest.
The reason there is more today is because travel is easier. Planes and cars move much faster than wooden ships and horseback.

[Radene]

Late to the party, OP, that's so last week.

Get with the times, or forever be square.

[Sniforge]

I wonder how many of these commentators work for paradox... bcs it seems like the same generic arguments that i keep seeing on other threads... including the short one " late to the party op" there's hundreds of them. And then the ones about "probably a worker at paradox who made a mistake" another bs one that i keep seeing. A lot of people arguing in favor or paradoxes racism. Amazing.

[Blind0ne]

This post inspired me to buy a bunch of copies for my friends. Great game.

[Buzz Burbank]

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I wonder how many of these commentators work for paradox... bcs it seems like the same generic arguments that i keep seeing on other threads... including the short one " late to the party op" there's hundreds of them. And then the ones about "probably a worker at paradox who made a mistake" another bs one that i keep seeing. A lot of people arguing in favor or paradoxes racism. Amazing.

You'll get over it.

[Orion Invictus]

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This thread is why I hate the "woke" movement. It's creating more problems that it's solving. I don't believe the new portraits are a race issue. Someone probably just messed up the shading. It isn't an issue for me because of the futuristic setting. Eventually our appearance is going to homogenize. I wish it had happened already. My Irish heritage won't let me stay out in the sun longer than 30 minutes without getting burnt to a crisp. Then again, I wouldn't have my auburn/maroon hair, green eyes, and left hand dominance. Three rare genetic traits combined to make me a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ unicorn. It drives all the ladies wild for some reason.

"This thread that's obviously making fun of the so-called 'woke movement' makes me hate said movement."

If this post were making fun of racists, would it make you hate racists instead?

[Raingnome Noir]

From a sci-fi standpoint, if you take demographics into account, given enough time we're all going to end up Chinese, so it makes sense sort of.

[Radene]

Първоначално публикувано от Sniforge:

I wonder how many of these commentators work for paradox... bcs it seems like the same generic arguments that i keep seeing on other threads... including the short one " late to the party op" there's hundreds of them. And then the ones about "probably a worker at paradox who made a mistake" another bs one that i keep seeing. A lot of people arguing in favor or paradoxes racism. Amazing.

So you have chosen...."FOREVER SQUARE".