Bio Ascension with Ascended Clone Army Origin?

[Ashley ^^]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows if the clone vats from bio ascension can work with ascended clone army pop and bypass the ancienc clone vats limit that way, thanks for answers .

[adobo]

No. Bio ascension is basically worthless for ascended clones. Can't mod your pops nor grow more of them with more cloning vats. It has to be the ancient cloning vats.

[CTH2004]

Originally posted by majikero:

No. Bio ascension is basically worthless for ascended clones. Can't mod your pops nor grow more of them with more cloning vats. It has to be the ancient cloning vats.

but, couldn't you use the vats to modify other empire species, and clone them?

And, why can't you edit the clones, anyways?

[adobo]

Lore reason is that the clones have been pushed to the limits and perfected to the point that you can't change it without distabalizing them.

And yes you can use the bio ascension on other pops but why would you? Your power is your god-like clone admirals. Psionics gives the best leader traits.

[CTH2004]

Originally posted by majikero:

Lore reason is that the clones have been pushed to the limits and perfected to the point that you can't change it without distabalizing them.

And yes you can use the bio ascension on other pops but why would you? Your power is your god-like clone admirals. Psionics gives the best leader traits.

true, but if you are absorbing all, and want to kind of role-play a non-religious society...

[mss73055]

Bio-ascension can be used to shape a caste society around your military clones. Very nice with a clone+racket empire, because the rackets are also psionic.

So you can have psionic administration and clone military.
Now move all your clones to Selusa Secundus :)

[Garatgh Deloi]

If you want to go bio ascension with clones you should likely choose the fertility choice rather then perfecting the clone soldiers. Since that allows you to genetically modify them.

It can still give you a very good early game since you can grow your clone troops fast but they will end up more like a regular empire late game when they grow normally (The clone soldier descendant admiral trait isn't that bad either even if its worse then the ascendant one).

[mss73055]

You got to engineer your ascended clones beforehand.
The single best combination seems to be

Venerable
Sedentary, Solitary, Unadaptive
2 free traits of choice

For the other 95% of your population genetic engineering works just fine.

[TangoImmortalis]

Originally posted by mss73055:

You got to engineer your ascended clones beforehand.
The single best combination seems to be

Venerable
Sedentary, Solitary, Unadaptive
2 free traits of choice

For the other 95% of your population genetic engineering works just fine.

Just fired up the Clone Army origin for the first time today, ironically lost my militarist "very strong" ascended clone scientist to hostile fauna while on the home world dig site. Had a good laugh at the idea , but the unity deficit and the cost to replace that leader has caused me to consider a restart, thanks for the suggested traits!

[mss73055]

Another natural choice is some kind of a death temple. Clones clone like rabbits, so when the game starts you celebrate its first day with some sacrifices.

Later on you isolate the clones. so you can build a planet full of death temples and 5 vats to restock supplies .