English as the default language for mods if there is no localization to the game language

[Skavak]

Not all mods are translated into languages other than English, respectively, playing on a different localization instead of describing it in English see BLA_BLA_DESC. The easiest way to fix it would be to make that if there is no translation in the local language of the game (eg German) by default used the English localization of the mod.
Paradox, please, fix it, Stellaris extremely interesting including mods, and losing the opportunity to read the description in the game, even in a different language greatly impairs the gaming experience.

[AngleWyrm]

It's up to the individual mod programmer to write a localization file for each supported language, including English. Each file is a mapping of variable names to character strings used to display them in the given language. These files are made/found in the mod's 'localisation' folder.

Here's an example: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2322836135/3001051775899509432/

[IPWIW]

you can switch localisation with console command

switchlanguage l_english

might need to load save but it's better than relaunching

[Skavak]

Originally posted by IPWIW:

you can switch localisation with console command

switchlanguage l_english

might need to load save but it's better than relaunching

Everyone can play english version game but, I want to play on my lang and see english descriptions only when modmaker didnt make localisation file.

[Skavak]

Originally posted by AngleWyrm:

It's up to the individual mod programmer to write a localization file for each supported language, including English. Each file is a mapping of variable names to character strings used to display them in the given language. These files are made/found in the mod's 'localisation' folder.

Here's an example: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2322836135/3001051775899509432/

I know it, but why paradox cant make simple trigger like: if no german.yml (loc file) load english.yml

[IPWIW]

you can switch back to whatever language you were using

switchlanguage l_russian

[pipo.p]

Wouldn't "language = l_default" instead of "language = l_english" in mymod_l_english.yml file work? Or something? This way, if an entry is missing in mymod_l_german.yml, then mymod_l_english would be used.

[Ryika]

If you want the devs to see and evaluate your suggestion, post it over at the paradox forums, in the suggestion section. It's quite unlikely that a suggestion that is posted here finds its way into the proper hands.

That being said, somewhat of a workaround that you can do right now, is to take the localisation files of the language you're using, and copy paste the texts into the english files (while keeping the l_english at the top as it is), and then set the Client language to English.

You'll see the base game in your language, and mods will be displayed in english. Of course the downside is that mods that have proper locs for your language will also use english instead.

[Skavak]

Originally posted by IPWIW:

you can switch back to whatever language you were using

switchlanguage l_russian

менять язык каждый раз как видишь дескриптор вместо текста. Гениально.

[T-Marria]

Originally posted by Ryika:

If you want the devs to see and evaluate your suggestion, post it over at the paradox forums, in the suggestion section. It's quite unlikely that a suggestion that is posted here finds its way into the proper hands.

That being said, somewhat of a workaround that you can do right now, is to take the localisation files of the language you're using, and copy paste the texts into the english files (while keeping the l_english at the top as it is), and then set the Client language to English.

You'll see the base game in your language, and mods will be displayed in english. Of course the downside is that mods that have proper locs for your language will also use english instead.

Wow! thank you very much, this is such a simple solution, but at the same time I did not guess, I hope many users who have encountered this problem will see your message.

[jtm85]

Please Paradox fix this!
This is by far the most annoying thing for those who wants to play the base game in their language and use mods. I lost and waste my time changing mod files one per one in every platform I play paradox games (pc and steam deck). And every tinme a mod have an update is the same. Nonsense and frustating, when the solution is very easy!
We can read english quite well, yes, no need a mod translation, but we want the vanilla game in our language. Please!

[Immortalis]

Originally posted by jtm85:

Please Paradox fix this!
This is by far the most annoying thing for those who wants to play the base game in their language and use mods. I lost and waste my time changing mod files one per one in every platform I play paradox games (pc and steam deck). And every tinme a mod have an update is the same. Nonsense and frustating, when the solution is very easy!
We can read english quite well, yes, no need a nod translation, but we want the vanilla game in our language. Please!

It's not something Paradox has any control whatsoever over, therefore not something they can fix.

You'd have more luck asking mod authors to implement the change themselves (and in fact you could as well supply them with a ready localisation file so all they need to do is put it in their own files as they upload them).

[Ryika]

Originally posted by Immortalis:

It's not something Paradox has any control whatsoever over, therefore not something they can fix.

That's not true. It's pretty simple in concept: If no localization key is found for your language, then fall back to English as the default language. Whether it's that easy to implement probably depends on how localisation is done in paradox titles, but it's certainly something that can be done. I think Civ 5 actually does it that way IIRC.

Of course modders can (and should) fill all localisation files that they don't have actual localisation for with English, but not everybody does, and having an automatic fallback would make everybody's life easier - modders would not have to copy-paste everything a bunch of times everytime they make a change to their loc, and mod users with non-English clients would not run into empty localisation keys anymore.

[jtm85]

Originally posted by Immortalis:

Originally posted by jtm85:

Please Paradox fix this!

You'd have more luck asking mod authors to implement the change themselves (and in fact you could as well supply them with a ready localisation file so all they need to do is put it in their own files as they upload them).

Originally posted by Immortalis:

Originally posted by jtm85:

Please Paradox fix this!
This is by far the most annoying thing for those who wants to play the base game in their language and use mods. I lost and waste my time changing mod files one per one in every platform I play paradox games (pc and steam deck). And every tinme a mod have an update is the same. Nonsense and frustating, when the solution is very easy!
We can read english quite well, yes, no need a nod translation, but we want the vanilla game in our language. Please!

It's not something Paradox has any control whatsoever over, therefore not something they can fix.

You'd have more luck asking mod authors to implement the change themselves (and in fact you could as well supply them with a ready localisation file so all they need to do is put it in their own files as they upload them).

Yes, I have do it with some Victoria 3 mods, but I do not have enough time. In some cases I make my own files but when the creator update the mod I have to make it again. I play all Paradox games xD

Why Paradox can control this? There's other games where you can download a mod in English and the base game reads in English without these weird BLA_BLA.DESC annoying thing.

[jtm85]

Originally posted by Ryika:

Originally posted by Immortalis:

It's not something Paradox has any control whatsoever over, therefore not something they can fix.

That's not true. It's pretty simple in concept: If no localization key is found for your language, then fall back to English as the default language. Whether it's that easy to implement probably depends on how localisation is done in paradox titles, but it's certainly something that can be done. I think Civ 5 actually does it that way IIRC.

Of course modders can (and should) fill all localisation files that they don't have actual localisation for with English, but not everybody does, and having an automatic fallback would make everybody's life easier - modders would not have to copy-paste everything a bunch of times everytime they make a change to their loc, and mod users with non-English clients would not run into empty localisation keys anymore.

Exactly. Project Hospital and Rimworld, for example, does this way.