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Drion Mar 16, 2020 @ 5:48am
Why are Jump Drives a "Dangerous Technology"?
Should i not research it? what am i risking?
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Elitewrecker PT Mar 16, 2020 @ 5:53am 
Increases the chances of one of the three crisis showing up.
pete3great Mar 16, 2020 @ 5:53am 
Jump drive use sets off one of the end-game crisis.
Ramonkey Mar 16, 2020 @ 5:58am 
It may or may not tear open a part of subspace. And there may or may not be a dangerous threat lurking on the other side
Meewec Mar 16, 2020 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Ramonkey:
It may or may not tear open a part of subspace. And there may or may not be a dangerous threat lurking on the other side
that being said, a crisis is coming this just puts some weight on the scale for which one it'll be
BandAid Mar 16, 2020 @ 6:55am 
The jump drive technology warning is basically pointless because while you increase the chance of one specific crisis to be happening you will get one either way. So unless you have a specific dislike for crisis the jump drives increase the chances of then there is no reason not to research it (I have read that the Materialistic Fallen Empire may react negatively to you researching dangerous technologies but this has never happened to me so far).
Ryika Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by BandAid:
The jump drive technology warning is basically pointless because while you increase the chance of one specific crisis to be happening you will get one either way.
By increasing the chance for one to happen, you also increase the overall chance of crisis vs. no crisis everytime the game rolls for one, so technically having the technology will make the crisis trigger a bit earlier on average.

In practice, it hardly makes a noticable difference.
Last edited by Ryika; Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:22am
happyscrub Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:40am 
Don't worry about dangerous tech. A crisis WILL HAPPEN regardless of what you do. The tech doesn't make it happen sooner or stronger.

Also it's something that use to be a problem because a fallen empire use to hate you if you researched them and my attack you.
Last edited by happyscrub; Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:42am
Bloodartist Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Drion:
Should i not research it? what am i risking?

You are risking basically nothing. The endgame crisis will happen anyway, and the dangerous technologies mainly affect the chances of which one will show up. Don't be afraid of researching these.

I assume the jump drives are related to the Unbidden..
Last edited by Bloodartist; Mar 16, 2020 @ 7:49am
Originally posted by Drion:
Why are Jump Drives a "Dangerous Technology"?
The practical reason for this warning has already been addressed well, and I have nothing to add to that.

From a story perspective, the danger of jump drives is that your ships punch a hole through to another dimension and use that to travel to another location in this dimension instantly... but no one knows what that other dimension contains or what the long-term consequences of using this method of travel might be for those who do the traveling or for the galaxy as a whole.

This idea is probably inspired by science fiction (as are many things in Stellaris). For example, the movie Event Horizon explores a similar technology and a different sort of danger that we might find if we were to use it.
Pineapple King Mar 16, 2020 @ 8:38am 
Do it, the unbidden are the easiest crisis to deal with and are the easiest to counter. Just get some shield bypass weapons and boom you have soft locked the entire crisis plus their power comes from a singular gate which ya gotta kill.

Also to soft lock any crisis, snipe their builders. Their ai wont progress to new systems because they are still waiting for the new builder and they cant build anything because they cant spawn in a new builder because they have too many fleets.
Slimane Mar 16, 2020 @ 9:14am 
You should get it because Jump Drives are just that good. Plus the AI will get the technology themselves anyway. Holding back will just disadvantage you.

Sapient AI or Synths on the other hand? Very different story. Simply researching sapient AI or synths will pretty much guarantee you get the "AI rebellion". Which is seperate from the end game crises and only affects you.
Last edited by Slimane; Mar 16, 2020 @ 9:30am
_ALuX_ Mar 16, 2020 @ 10:22am 
Remember in the opening of the first Halo game where Keys asks Cortana if they lost the Covenant armada while escaping Reach but she tells him there is no way to not be able to notice the giant hole in slipspace they left behind? Its kinda like that but instead of a dogmatic religious ensemble out to activate giant hula hoops for fun and profit a bunch of voracious energy beings from another dimension instead.
Leoscar Mar 16, 2020 @ 10:29am 
If I remember properly, researching the tech won't do anything but everytime you use it the chance of a specific crisis spawning increases.
Ryika Mar 16, 2020 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Leoscar:
If I remember properly, researching the tech won't do anything but everytime you use it the chance of a specific crisis spawning increases.
No, that's not correct.

If any player has researched the tech, a certain endgame crisis is more likely to occur once you're 50 years past the endgame year. That's all there is to it.
Leoscar Mar 16, 2020 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Ryika:
Originally posted by Leoscar:
If I remember properly, researching the tech won't do anything but everytime you use it the chance of a specific crisis spawning increases.
No, that's not correct.

If any player has researched the tech, a certain endgame crisis is more likely to occur once you're 50 years past the endgame year. That's all there is to it.

That's good to know. Not sure where I read what I wrote but oh well.
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