Shattered ring Origin

[AdrianVaughan]

Good Morning can someone tell me , the info says Habitability preference set to Ring world. Now does this mean i can only live on ring worlds ? or if i was to find another planet there is a % penalty ? or would it be just 0% i cant live on anything else

Many thanks :)

[Markus Reese]

Shattered ring gives you 100% to ring worlds, 0% habitability to other planets. So if being an insular society, you typically go megastructures and habitat route.

[AdrianVaughan]

so if i was playing human would this be a problem ? i guess would be a slow start until i got habitats ?

[mss73055]

Or you go xenophile, where your first race ends up as a mediocre one. But you get 3 guaranteed ring segments.

Humans got extra issues here, as they constantly get distracted by ring tones.

[Markus Reese]

Don't think it would be a problem. The advantage is that the ringworld itself is a pretty strong starting place. But key is to ensure have a stronger industrial focus so that can repair the other sections.

As MSS says, you can always try and get another species as part of it too, but then are you really even playing as the starting species at that point?

A strong science focus can be nice as well to help carry that tall play and get the megastructures tech early so you can start making new ring worlds.

[AdrianVaughan]

Thanks very much

[Freedom's Flame]

Of note: Machine Empires are still able to live anywhere, making Shattered Ring an extremely strong start for them.

[AdrianVaughan]

I had been playing with the giga mod, man the starting places on that is insane.

[BigTurnip]

Originally posted by Freedom's Flame:

Of note: Machine Empires are still able to live anywhere, making Shattered Ring an extremely strong start for them.

not in 3.1 Shattered Ring is a weak start for them since it lost the research districts, they are better off going Machine World which is far better and if they are rogue servitor relic is better. An early ecumenopolis has so much alloy output.

[manniepants]

Originally posted by BigTurnip:

Originally posted by Freedom's Flame:

Of note: Machine Empires are still able to live anywhere, making Shattered Ring an extremely strong start for them.

not in 3.1 Shattered Ring is a weak start for them since it lost the research districts, they are better off going Machine World which is far better and if they are rogue servitor relic is better. An early ecumenopolis has so much alloy output.

Interesting, i didn't realize they removed the research districts. Is that just on the starting segment or on the other segments as well? I assume normally constructed ringworrlds still have them

[mister_lobos]

they didn't remove research districts, they may have removed the arcane generator that made it easier to get the resources needed to build the research district, but you can still build the district.

as for the original question: planets START at 0% habitable, you can get research and other methods to increase that up to very usable levels.
as mentioned for any machine empire it'd still be 100%, for lithoids it'd be 50% to start..
multiple technologies add to it, possible events add a bit more, and any planet terraformed to a gaia or hive planet would still be 100%.

[adobo]

Shattered ring origin starts on a special "shattered ring segment". They get trade district in stead of generator district. Their mining district also gives alloys. With Mercantile tradition, each trade district gives 1 merchant. It's great with merchant guilds and functional architecture. It's a different beast now that makes for a powerful trade empire. In one planet you can produce lots of energy, unity, minerals and alloys.

Habitability isn't really much of a problem. Merchants, bureaucrats and soldiers aren't affected in their output. Tech up to synths and/or habitats and trade spam your way to victory.

[BigTurnip]

Originally posted by mister_lobos:

they didn't remove research districts, they may have removed the arcane generator that made it easier to get the resources needed to build the research district, but you can still build the district.

as for the original question: planets START at 0% habitable, you can get research and other methods to increase that up to very usable levels.
as mentioned for any machine empire it'd still be 100%, for lithoids it'd be 50% to start..
multiple technologies add to it, possible events add a bit more, and any planet terraformed to a gaia or hive planet would still be 100%.

The Shattered ring origin doesn't get research districts, which makes it rather weak for a machine now.

If you want to play shattered ring origin, then the best build on it now is trade, since you can spam, trade districts(Merchants) and build research districts

[Kiethoo]

Shattered Ring can later be "REPAIRED" into a Regular Ring Segment also which makes it like a regular created ring.

[CrUsHeR]

By the time you got mega-engineering, the economic advantage of restoring your ring is vastly outplayed by basically all other (effective) origins.

TBH the only reason you'd pick this is when you want to rush as early as possible, because clearing the blockers gives a lot of alloys. And then you also got the species to colonize planets.
But for the regular empire building, it is probably the weakest option.

[Markus Reese]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

By the time you got mega-engineering, the economic advantage of restoring your ring is vastly outplayed by basically all other (effective) origins.

TBH the only reason you'd pick this is when you want to rush as early as possible, because clearing the blockers gives a lot of alloys. And then you also got the species to colonize planets.
But for the regular empire building, it is probably the weakest option.

I will disagree. You pick it because it is interesting to pick like most starts. Think is any advantage to the doomsday start? Nope. But it is interesting.