You can now do a 25x crisis?

[The Shadow Rose]

That seems a bit impossible no?

[coolman552]

tech rushing meta gods would like to tell you otherwise

[Zefnoly]

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

That seems a bit impossible no?

Well 3x crisis already gets rid of itself now... The AI is broken for Crisis empires...

[Nightmyre]

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

[The Shadow Rose]

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

Eh i only ever play on grand admiral with maxed settings to i always set it to 5x it before but i expected 25x fleet sizes to be impossible unless you had some crazy empire with an ungodly number of worlds or habitats. I dont really do expansion games anymore so i just wall off stuffs soooo i doubt ide be able to kill that before 2200 to. Doesnt seem as bad as i expected.

Thanks!

[Soul]

Im playing through with 25x now we'll see how it goes lol

[Nightmyre]

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

Eh i only ever play on grand admiral with maxed settings to i always set it to 5x it before but i expected 25x fleet sizes to be impossible unless you had some crazy empire with an ungodly number of worlds or habitats. I dont really do expansion games anymore so i just wall off stuffs soooo i doubt ide be able to kill that before 2200 to. Doesnt seem as bad as i expected.

Thanks!

Admittedly, I got a pretty good starting setup. By year 2250 I was at like ..6K+ monthly research, by year 2300 I was over 10K per month.

[Mansen]

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

That seems a bit impossible no?

Ask No Virtue on Twitch. They're the reason it exists in the first place :D

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[corisai]

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

How many habitable worlds? Because max AI empires already buffing you with more planets & pops to work for you :)

Publicado originalmente por Mansen:

Ask No Virtue on Twitch. They're the reason it exists in the first place :D

Hell, and he's completely don't care what's researching (= wasting time on missiles and similiar trash) and using crappy mixed fleets...

[Nightmyre]

Publicado originalmente por corisai:

How many habitable worlds? Because max AI empires already buffing you with more planets & pops to work for you :)

I assume you meant to quote me? If so, I'm not really sure what you mean by more planets and pops to work for me? Are you suggesting that with max AI empires, I'd have more empires to be able to take pops from?

Because if so, I can pretty much guarantee you that it is impossible to play that game with a military focus. You will never out-compete the AI on fleet power while also being able to research fast enough to handle a crisis in year ~2320.

[corisai]

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

I assume you meant to quote me? If so, I'm not really sure what you mean by more planets and pops to work for me?

More habitable planets > more resources to snowball.

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

to handle a crisis in year ~2320.

Ouch, my mistake - misread it as standart 2350, sorry.
Yean, in that case you don't have any option but diplo-tech... Meh, I'm understand why I missed your starting date as never loved such gameplay style on GA - too random previously, too easy with envoys now.

[MushyNed]

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

What setting on tech/tradition?

[The Shadow Rose]

Publicado originalmente por corisai:

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

How many habitable worlds? Because max AI empires already buffing you with more planets & pops to work for you :)

0.25 habitable worlds. :D

I go hardcore. Ive done the hardest difficulty from my first game when stellaris originally launched.

I always go max advanced empires and high aggression to etc.

I also displace or purge any pops that arnt my own since game one and get every tech by 100 - 125 years in.

Its fun but i miss the old days when i got all my tech through nonstop war and never built a single science lab till 2300

I also miss having wormhole travel tech as a start for my empire.

[Nightmyre]

Publicado originalmente por MushyNed:

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

What setting on tech/tradition?

Defaults.

[Lady Crimson (RIP)]

Personally I think having it on grand admiral actually helps the galaxy be more prepared, since they'll be more ready to fight a crisis too.

Currently uniting the galaxy for the ultimate 25x threat, so we'll see how it goes!

[Lady Crimson (RIP)]

Publicado originalmente por The Shadow Rose:

Publicado originalmente por Nightmyre:

Shrug. I've "beaten" it on 25x with "hard mode" - endgame crisis year 2250, max AI empires, all AI aggressive, grand admiral. Unmodded, ironman.

And when i say "beaten", I mean, I can beat their fleets. I'm too lazy to bother going through and actually mopping them up, but for all intents and purposes, I've won.

That being said - this was for Prethoryn Scourge. I expect Extradimensional Invaders would be just as easy. But I expect Contingency, with my above settings, would be pretty close to impossible, unless I got extremely lucky with the spawn points.

Scourge elite fleets are fleet strength ~3.5M, which means I expect the equivalent Contingency fleet will be closer to 6-7M.

Eh i only ever play on grand admiral with maxed settings to i always set it to 5x it before but i expected 25x fleet sizes to be impossible unless you had some crazy empire with an ungodly number of worlds or habitats. I dont really do expansion games anymore so i just wall off stuffs soooo i doubt ide be able to kill that before 2200 to. Doesnt seem as bad as i expected.

Thanks!

Actually you don't get too bad on planets if you go the Megacorp route and do a Hegemony to force everyone else into your federation.

I hate going too far over too (50 is around my hard limit, but I prefur less).

It generally works well for that, and still setting yourself up well for the final crisis.