Stargates

[Voidseeker]

are they now locked to their Origin? i play AI Ringworld-Origin and already only saw those tiered Endgame-reasearches for the last 15 or 20 rounds but still haven't gotten Stargate-Tech so i started wondering ....

[Meewec]

just getting unlucky most likely. you can look here for prerequisites and weights to make it showing up more likely

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Engineering_research#List_of_engineering_technologies

[Kapika96]

You mean gateways?

You have to actually have seen one or know an empire that has the tech. Also, you really want your physics researcher to be a particle expert, a curator or to have either the maniacal/spar of genius traits, otherwise you have a much lower chance of seeing it.

Here's the tech, and all of its requirements. https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Physics_research#Gateway_Activation

[Voidseeker]

ah i see it's because the galaxy didn't spawn any L-Gates

[Cave Yeti Supreme]

Originally posted by Voidseeker:

ah i see it's because the galaxy didn't spawn any L-Gates

uuuuhhhhhhhh I don't think that's possible...

[Meewec]

Originally posted by ANACHRONiSM:

Originally posted by Voidseeker:

ah i see it's because the galaxy didn't spawn any L-Gates

uuuuhhhhhhhh I don't think that's possible...

Barring mods or a setting I don't know if it exists or not there should always be at least one. L-gates also shouldn't matter anyways

[Voidseeker]

no one needs to have a Gateway to have a chance on the techs xD since i play with very few (who are all on the other side of the galaxy) and seriously don't see any L-Gate it looks like tough luck for me xD and no i have no mods or whatever but play pure vanilla currently

[steven1mac]

L-Gates and Gateways are 2 different things. If you have the DLC L-Gates should be in the galaxy. Gateways are in the base game, however you can turn the option off when you start the game. You cannot get the technology without having a gateway in your space.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by steven1mac:

L-Gates and Gateways are 2 different things. If you have the DLC L-Gates should be in the galaxy. Gateways are in the base game, however you can turn the option off when you start the game. You cannot get the technology without having a gateway in your space.

you don't need a gateway in your territory. finding one or making contact with a non-fallen empire/marauder/caravaneer that has the tech will give it a chance to show up

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by steven1mac:

You cannot get the technology without having a gateway in your space.

Gateway_Activation[stellaris.paradoxwikis.com]
Gateway_Construction[stellaris.paradoxwikis.com]

If you mean Gateways and not L-Gates, you only need to either find any Gateway while exploring, or make contact with an empire having one in its borders. Then the activation tech is still required for the construction tech, but not having or activating it yourself.

Having the Gateway in your borders increases the chance for the activation and construction tech to appear by factor 4x.

Discovery traditions and a Particles Expert employed will increase the chance by another 1.25x each.

A scientist with Particles, Maniac, Genius, or Curator traits is pretty much required, otherwise the chance is reduced by 90%.

[CrUsHeR]

BTW this also reminds me that the conditions to discover certain techs needs a reform, badly. Because this is impossible to figure out without peeking into the wiki all the time.

Example Psionic Theory requires either a Psionics Expert or Maniacal scientist (among other things), but a Curator or Spark of Genius don't help. It is just highly inconsistent and arbitrary.