How do I make new sectors?

[X Æ A-12]

Might sound a bit noobish (well I am), but how do I make new sectors and move planets into them? There seems to be a 'create sector' button in the older version but i can't find it on the current version.

[Azunai]

you assign a specific planet as the sector capital (on the planet screen of that world). the sector then contains all systems up to 4 jumps away from the capital.

you can't move planets from one sector to another any more.

[lalala]

Open Planet View of the planet without a sector. Above the build queue, there is the sector name, if it belongs to a sector. If it does not belong to a sector, there will be "frontier sector" and a "plus button" to create a new sector.

As azunai said, sector is 4 jumps range from the planet where you created the sector. So all other planets in range are automatically belonging to the new sector. All sectors, except core, can be deleted in the same place where you create them. You can only delete from the planet where you created it, not other planets in the same sector.

You can not directly move planets in other sectors, but you can distribute sectors differently, which might cause a planet to be in a different sector, by remove a sector and create it on a different planet.

[Lok52]

So I am stuck with the one system sector I have, because there are no other habitable planets within 4 jumps.

[lalala]

Yes, except you build habitats or (later) ring worlds. In case by "habitable" you mean colonizable, not necessary just inhabitable for your species. Because if there are colonizable planets, you can colonize them when you have migration treaty with an empire that has pops with preference for said worlds. When you choose to build a colony ship it will ask you which pop type and the one from migration treaty will be available in the list. Or if you find other species by other means, like events.

[Lok52]

Yeah, I've done colonizing, haven't made it to habitats or ring worlds yet.Keep getting destroyed too soon. Still working on balancing the economy, military, and expansion. I'm not really good at these games, I just love playing them.

[Mithrandale]

Originally posted by Lok52:

Yeah, I've done colonizing, haven't made it to habitats or ring worlds yet.Keep getting destroyed too soon. Still working on balancing the economy, military, and expansion. I'm not really good at these games, I just love playing them.

That is a great description of my position!

[hardy_conrad]

I feel you, heh. Put a ton of hours into the game and only now does it occur to me perhaps I ought to give this sector business a closer look. Actually one thing I've been pondering lately is the merits of subscription. In purely financial terms seems logical, but I'm worried I'll be unable to unsubscribe. One of those elderly, cash only types here (except for steam but even that has caused misgivings at times).

[Geoff]

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

I feel you, heh. Put a ton of hours into the game and only now does it occur to me perhaps I ought to give this sector business a closer look. Actually one thing I've been pondering lately is the merits of subscription. In purely financial terms seems logical, but I'm worried I'll be unable to unsubscribe. One of those elderly, cash only types here (except for steam but even that has caused misgivings at times).

If you've already purchased the base game, it's not economical to also subscribe. You can buy the DLCs as they come out for less than you'd pay with the subscription. That could change if they start producing DLCs more frequently or if they change the price ration between the two options, but at least last time I looked at the math, the subscription was really tailored towards people who were balking at getting into the game because of the high threshold cost.

[arronax06]

To be fair, when that thread was created 4 years ago, sectors had a different function than the one they have now. Now they are only used to share a governor across several planets.

Originally posted by Geoff:

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

I feel you, heh. Put a ton of hours into the game and only now does it occur to me perhaps I ought to give this sector business a closer look. Actually one thing I've been pondering lately is the merits of subscription. In purely financial terms seems logical, but I'm worried I'll be unable to unsubscribe. One of those elderly, cash only types here (except for steam but even that has caused misgivings at times).

If you've already purchased the base game, it's not economical to also subscribe. You can buy the DLCs as they come out for less than you'd pay with the subscription. That could change if they start producing DLCs more frequently or if they change the price ration between the two options, but at least last time I looked at the math, the subscription was really tailored towards people who were balking at getting into the game because of the high threshold cost.

It depends on how long someone intends to play the game. It'll take a few years for buying the already existing individual DLCs to be cheaper than the subscription, unless I'm missing something :) ?

[Mithrandale]

So early in the game a sector can only be organized at a planet? I only have one planet outside the original sector and its location sucks for being a sector capital!

[Kalemenos]

Originally posted by Mithrandale:

So early in the game a sector can only be organized at a planet? I only have one planet outside the original sector and its location sucks for being a sector capital!

Yes, that happens. Your first sector is default and can't change. As you expand your empire, you can create sectors based on other planets outside the original sector. At that point you can decide which planet, and by counting four systems away (not including the original planet), you can see how they'll look before you decide. But it doesn't cost anything to make or delete them, sometimes I delete a few mid-game and re-organize them. I even do fun things with sector names: I pick a list, like provinces of the Roman Empire, famous people, elements from the periodic table if I'm going lithoid, etc. Adds some interest.

[Zunnoab #931]

I don't understand the arbitrary limits. Only 4 jumps, and capitals can't bee too close to each other. That last part is especially silly. I'm guessing it's a relic from when sectors couldn't draw from one resource pool like the last time I played. And to that being gone, I say good riddance. I suppose to limit how far one leader can impact things too, but four jumps away is pretty small with 1000 stars.

I'm not complaining though. Coming back to the game again I was relieved each sector having its own resource pool is gone.

I was about to say it's not true you can't move planets between sectors, but that was an old comment.

[Geoff]

Originally posted by arronax06:

unless I'm missing something :) ?

I guess it depends on how you interpret buying "the base game." I bought in with the bundle that included most of the DLCs. Yes, it's true that the larger your backlog of unpurchased DLCs, the more economical it is to use the subscription to access the content you haven't purchased. I was assuming that he'd bought the previously released content. The game's full price is substantial, but not too great a burden for "eldery, cash-only types," which I'd probably count as. My point was that the value of the "subscription" doesn't lie in the products that are coming, but really in the back-catalog that's already been released. If you just need to keep up with the release schedule of the DLCs, the subscription is not a good deal.