Which version to play?

[Bob]

I read around online about people reverting the game back to prior states because they enjoy it more. I got base game galaxy edition. I am just wondering if there is a certain version of the game that is best to play while playing the base vanilla game.

Thanks

[IPWIW]

why not try them yourself?you can lose immense amount of time either way

[Bob]

Well...I don't exactly have all the time in the world to play, My concern is sinking a bunch of time into a inferior version of the game thats all.

[IPWIW]

none is perfect,so i choose more mod

[bri]

Well, if you want to play with the multiple FTL types then 1.9.1 is your best option (and you can find a fair number of mods that are compatible). If you want the original version of population management but are okay with forced hyper-lane only gameplay then I believe you want 2.2 (could be wrong). If you want to see what the current state is then obviously the most recent patch.

[steve19421945]

I am completely new to this game but I do want to find the most interesting and "realistic" mod and game version in a Star Wars type realism way as soon as possible with a wide variety of alien races and technologies. I want to build my new empire in a believable way with or without having to join a federation of other empires. I also want to avoid sinking a lot of time into an inferior version of the game. I want something similar to a Master of Orion empire building experience but more variety and realism of everything. Which game version and mods are recommended for the above stated goals?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Current

[klionh87]

The older versions are for 2 categories of people:

- Those who don't adapt to change and only wish to stick with what they know
- Those who have advanced games running on an older version and want to finish them (since newer versions tend to break old games quite horribly)


As a new player you are neither of those, so go ahead and play the latest version.
Right now, this is the
- Those who have advanced games running on an older version and want to finish them (since newer versions tend to break old games quite horribly)


As a new player you are neither of those, so go ahead and play the latest and best version.
Right now, this is the 2.7.2 BETA (it has fixed some noticeable performance issues present in 2.7.1).


As for mods, you probably want to play at least a couple vanilla games before getting into that.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by bri:

Well, if you want to play with the multiple FTL types then 1.9.1 is your best option (and you can find a fair number of mods that are compatible). If you want the original version of population management but are okay with forced hyper-lane only gameplay then I believe you want 2.2 (could be wrong). If you want to see what the current state is then obviously the most recent patch.

2.2 brought the current pop/planet managment

Originally posted by klionh87:

The older versions are for 2 categories of people:

- Those who don't adapt to change and only wish to stick with what they know
- Those who have advanced games running on an older version and want to finish them (since newer versions tend to break old games quite horribly)

don't forget people that somehow don't have 64 bit operating systems, they have to stick to a pre-2.3 version

[bri]

- Those who don't adapt to change and only wish to stick with what they know

You mean "those flexible enough in their thinking to handle NOT being shown exactly where the enemy is going to attack"

[Vyndicu]

Originally posted by RART0655:

I read around online about people reverting the game back to prior states because they enjoy it more. I got base game galaxy edition. I am just wondering if there is a certain version of the game that is best to play while playing the base vanilla game.

Thanks

I would recommend trying out 1.9.1 which is the last version that have both multiple FTL and semi-good AI (at least when it comes to deal with sector/economical as opposite to beating Human player). It is also the last version where, while not entirely bug/glitch free I will be first to admit that, Stellaris felt like it had a cohesion vision of what it wants to be.

Ever since then, Stellaris has been in a mess in what kind of game it wants to be and the UI feels clunky, not informative, and micro-management hell. That is just the top of the iceberg.

There are so many major/minor bugs being reported over and over and we have to resort to using mods to fix even more often lately. For instance, End-Crisis at a certain size and/or condition can end up with paralysis and can't expand as fast they used to in 1.9.1. PDX answer? Lets boost End-Crisis Strength from 5x to 25x... Which obviously is just a bandaid solution.

Performance is still a sore subject for me ever since 2.2. I am pretty sure I am not alone and yes I tested out the beta 2.7.2 and it is still slow/laggy on a powerful PC.

Of course there are people who like to "present their opinions" as fact and don't want anyone else to form a different opinion. Like that guy who said people don't want to adapt or change. We play video games for fun right? Not to 'adapt/change' to something that is somehow less fun for them.


P.S. BTW the password to unlock Stellaris older versions on Steam Beta is 'oldstellaris' without quotation. It has to do with the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) EU privacy law and older launcher not having an updated EULA to reflect that.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Vyndicu:

I would recommend trying out 1.9.1 which is the last version that have both multiple FTL and semi-good AI (at least when it comes to deal with sector/economical as opposite to beating Human player). It is also the last version where, while not entirely bug/glitch free I will be first to admit that, Stellaris felt like it had a cohesion vision of what it wants to be.

sector ai was so bad you literally built every building and only let it upgrade

[Vyndicu]

Originally posted by Meewec:

Originally posted by Vyndicu:

I would recommend trying out 1.9.1 which is the last version that have both multiple FTL and semi-good AI (at least when it comes to deal with sector/economical as opposite to beating Human player). It is also the last version where, while not entirely bug/glitch free I will be first to admit that, Stellaris felt like it had a cohesion vision of what it wants to be.

sector ai was so bad you literally built every building and only let it upgrade

Wrong. The Sector AI could take in planet with basic build and finish updating them for you. You could even order them to not overwrite anything you pre-built before letting sector AI take it over. So you could guidance the sector AI to not wreck your economy.

The problem was everybody was complaining that you had to endless 'click' to upgrade. Not that sector AI couldn't do anything back then. Sector had a different gameplay design problem back then.


Now? Sector AI is even more useless because you can't give them a plan or anything really to guidance them to what you want for that planet. To make it worse, you can't tell the sector/planet what you want them to do.

[Elitewrecker PT]

"Wrong. The Sector AI could take in planet with basic build and finish updating them for you. You could even order them to not overwrite anything you pre-built before letting sector AI take it over. So you could guidance the sector AI to not wreck your economy."

That's what he said.

[The Hat]

It's close. The multiple FTL game modes were a lot of fun for me because they were less defensive and predictable. But there are several indepth mods and things like the galactic community and federation DLC's which make up for it. The updates now are sufficient for the latest versions to have won out, even if its considerably more deterministic in its playthroughs.

[AngleWyrm]

Originally posted by RART0655:

... is a certain version of the game that is best to play while playing the base vanilla game.

v2.6.2 has working scrollbars, but from v2.6.3 on they no longer work.
v2.7 has performance issues, creating even more lag

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2063459746