late-game lag just got WAY worse in 2.7?

[tkoshark]

Very excited for the 2.7 update, but when I loaded a late-game 2.6 playthrough in the new patch, the game got catastrophically slow. I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2.7 it is the worst I have ever seen it, taking about 3-4 minutes to pass a single day in the game. Anyone else experiencing this?

[tomasoltis]

so ... I suppose you only update to 2.7 when 2.8 releases so you can play the most likely, most stable 2.7 while the paying beta testers do the work.

[Ad'Nar]

ashbery76 a écrit :

Just more evidence the team does not test the game properly.

They do test it,problem is they test it on their systems which are usually pretty specific. When you open it up to everyone,you tend to have an endless amount of different setups.This has been the case almost always.(except open betas and what not)

[bri]

Adnar a écrit :

ashbery76 a écrit :

Just more evidence the team does not test the game properly.

They do test it,problem is they test it on their systems which are usually pretty specific. When you open it up to everyone,you tend to have an endless amount of different setups.This has been the case almost always.(except open betas and what not)

Not really true given some of the issues that have "slipped through" in the past were far from platform/configuration related. Sure there will be some of that but any QA system that lets things like "pagans can no longer reform their religion", "rebels can't be killed as they immediately retreat when engaged", and some of the other whoppers that have made it to a patch release the last few years has issues.

[randomuser1123456789]

ashbery76 a écrit :

Just more evidence the team does not test the game properly.

I'm not sure but according to reviews on https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Paradox-Interactive-Reviews-E1008028_P2.htm Paradox fired all employees of one branch that opposed releasing a patch.

[Vyndicu]

khong26 a écrit :

ashbery76 a écrit :

Just more evidence the team does not test the game properly.

I'm not sure but according to reviews on https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Paradox-Interactive-Reviews-E1008028_P2.htm Paradox fired all employees of one branch that opposed releasing a patch.

Not a branch. But specifically their "publisher QA" department was let go. Which is a different group than Paradox Development Studios (I think that what they are called anyway) which has their own QA.

The number of testers were reduced for sure.

[Thrawn]

Yay, new content i cant experience because of the games performance issues. thanks for the update. lol

[gamerk2]

Even new games are pretty bad; I can see the stuttering on large sized galaxy's.

This needs to get fixed, ASAP.

[danekelly86]

Ok i was expecting to finally start playing today...i have held back a few days till 2.7 because i always remembered how bad the lag was.

Must of pumped over £100 into to this game but im still waiting for it to be playable?!?!? Paradox make great games no doubt but i'm just getting tired of it.

I just want to setup a large galaxy with a decent amount of AI and play a LONG slow tech game.

[Astasia]

It's not that they don't test, it's that they don't really care what the testers find. They pick a date and they push stuff out on that date regardless of what state it's in. They are usually aware of all the issues, but fixing issues is a lower priority to them than hitting marketing goals.

If it bothers you that much remember you can roll back to any major version of the game. There's no need for hyperbole, the last version of 2.6 was perfectly playable, and if you think the performance hit in the current version is the end of the world then you shouldn't be bothered waiting to play the new content until whatever issues are fixed.

[tkoshark]

Very glad to know I'm not alone, and equally glad that the devs already know it's a problem and are working on it. I gotta say, I'm very surprised that the 2.7 patch did this, since I get the impression that the jump from 2.6 to 2.7 entailed a fairly modest (but still welcome) set of new features.

[Vyndicu]

tkoshark a écrit :

Very glad to know I'm not alone, and equally glad that the devs already know it's a problem and are working on it. I gotta say, I'm very surprised that the 2.7 patch did this, since I get the impression that the jump from 2.6 to 2.7 entailed a fairly modest (but still welcome) set of new features.

What new features? I saw only a few QoL changes that about it?

[Athmet]

Vyndicu a écrit :

tkoshark a écrit :

Very glad to know I'm not alone, and equally glad that the devs already know it's a problem and are working on it. I gotta say, I'm very surprised that the 2.7 patch did this, since I get the impression that the jump from 2.6 to 2.7 entailed a fairly modest (but still welcome) set of new features.

What new features? I saw only a few QoL changes that about it?

Well the habitat for one... Did they not get 2 more level to expand on ?

Edit:
* Federation votes show the voting method in the voting popup. Law votes also show the current law of that category.
* The Galactic Community will occasionally send strongly worded letters to empires that are in Breach of Galactic Law, giving them an opportunity to make all adjustments necessary with a single bureaucratic stroke.
* 70+ Original Audio Assets Remastered
** New Ship Designer sounds with more variations.
** Loads of new ambient planet reveals.
** Mono to Stereo Upgrade of legacy sounds.
** Technical fixes on several sound effects
* Added Industrial Subsidies edict, which increases consumer goods output of artisan jobs, at the cost of energy upkeep. It is unlocked by Global Production Strategy tech.
* Added Forge Subsidies edict, which increases alloy output of metallurgist jobs, at the cost of energy upkeep. It is unlocked by Global Production Strategy tech.
* Added Extended Shifts edict which increases worker and slave output at the cost of happiness. It is unlocked by Workplace Motivators domination tradition.
* Added Drone Overdrive edict for gestalt empires that is unlocked by the Drone Networks domination tradition.
* Added Evacuation Protocols edict which is available to Doomsday origin empires.
* Implemented Slave Trade Resolutions.
* Which peace offer is possible must now be scripted per war goal type.
* Added accessibility settings for Multiplayer chat.
* Added new VFX and SFX for “Space Storms”, which can appear randomly from the mid-game onwards.
* Added new VFXs and SFXs for Nebulas.
* Added new VFX and SFX Crisis Systems.
* Added new VFX and SFX for consecrated planets.
* Added a galaxy generation option to completely disable Xeno Compatibility.
* Added some Envoy related events.
* Added new Hive Mind name list.
* Added a joint operation event chain for Galactic Unions and Research Co-operatives.
* Added a joint operation event chain for Research Co-operatives.
* Added a joint operation event chain for Hegemony Federations.
* Added a joint operation event chain for Trade Leagues.
* Added event chain for joint military exercises for a militarist federation.
* Habitats no longer require removing mining or research stations and can be built directly on top of them. Habitats built above nanite deposits now retain the nanite production. Habitats built above Zro, Dark Matter, Living Metal, or Nanite deposits are now treated as research habitats.
* Added a home system each for Tiyanki and Space Amoebas.
* Added several events to spawn amoebas and during the game.
* Added the Tiyanki Conservation Act resolution to the Galactic Community
* Added the Tiyanki Pest Control resolution to the Galactic Community
* Added a Space Amoeba Protection Act galactic resolution, letting all countries peacefully coexist with space amoebas (or face the consequences).
* Added a new Tiyanki Hatchling type and randomized Tiyanki fleet compositions
* New Tiyanki fleets can now spawn from their home system
* Added a new roaming Space Cloud
* Added a pirate fleet which may also spawn in the late game, raiding systems for basic resources.
* Added turbulent nebula systems where ship systems are impaired
* Remnants Origin is now unlocked by owning either Ancient Relics or Federations (does not require both)
* Orbital Habitats now have reduced tech and construction requirements, and start with 4 districts. Two additional tiers of Habitat technology have been added, which unlock planetary decisions to expand the size of your habitats. Advanced Habitats can also support basic housing buildings. The Voidborne Ascension Perk has been changed to give each of your Advanced Habitats 2 additional building slots, add the new Habitat technologies as research options, and permit the construction of advanced housing buildings on Advanced Habitats. Void Dwellers now begin with their capital Habitat upgraded to be an Advanced Habitat, and have Habitat Expansion available as an engineering research option.
* Mining Drones can now occasionally expand to nearby unclaimed systems.
* Crystals can now occasionally spawn a single ship that seeks out far away asteroids to crash into and spawn new crystals.
* Made it possible for edicts to be running perpetually until turned off.
* Added Edict Capacity, which is a soft cap on having a certain amount of edicts running. Going over it will increase your empire sprawl.
* A number of Edicts now use Edict Capacity, they are marked with a separate icon from the edicts that expire
* Praise be! A new set of resolutions have been added to the Galactic Community that uphold the Divinity of Life. We expect the righteous empires of the Community to support this cause.
* Favors can now be used to convince your federation allies to accept your law proposal.
* Added Expanded Breeding Program edict, that is unlocked by the Gene Crops tech

Among those, would you say there are new features ?

[Vyndicu]

No need to go over-board...

Most of those are what I would called reworked feature or QoL change like I said before.

It is not like Lithoid DLC where you got new species trait/archtype to play with.

[TwoTonTuna]

can confirm that performance took a pretty nasty hit with the current patch. i'm already starting to get stutter as early as 2320 with xeno-compatibility disabled. I can't imagine how bad the stuttering will get in the lategame

[Athmet]

Vyndicu a écrit :

No need to go over-board...

Most of those are what I would called reworked feature or QoL change like I said before.

It is not like Lithoid DLC where you got new species trait/archtype to play with.

Maybe that is what tkoshark called new feature. Was just trying to answer your question but should have let him I guess.