Playing Stellaris a year ago i had Titans and other massive ships.. Then i come back and.... they're gone!

[romannets]

Aaaaaand its gone! I came back to the game after a years hiatus, and purchased the Federations DLC.... Only to find now i cannot obtain Titans because Titans are now removed from the game and put behind a new DLC paywall aka Apocalypse. And i cannot obtain Juggernoughts that i paid for with Federations DLC, because Titans are a pre-requisite technology to be able to build them in the first place. I also seem unable to build ring worlds.... Am i wrong??? i have came to the end of my tech trees and still no sign of these big ships...

[romannets]

This is either false advertising ( that you get Juggernoughts with the Federations DLC) or i am wrong so tell me how im wrong. Other wise i might take action.

[Nightmyre]

Titans have always been an Apocalypse-specific tech. Perhaps you had a mod which was giving you a similar ship?

As for Juggernaut, it does seem to be a bit of an oversight on their part, that it requires the Titan tech. Perhaps something they'll fix in the next patch.

RingWorld is a Utopia-specific tech, and so the origin will also be Utopia-specific.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Titans were never buildable by the player without mods until apocalypse, which was, by the way, over 2 years ago.
Juggernauts requiring titans must be an oversight and fixed soon.
Ring worlds require utopia and the galactic wonders ascension perk.

The ringworld origin is federation exclusive though.

[Athmet]

Originally posted by romannets:

Am i wrong???

Yes you (edit:)mostly(/edit) are, see above (edit:) and below(/edit) answers.

[Nightmyre]

Originally posted by Athmet:

Originally posted by romannets:

Am i wrong???

Yes you are, see above answers.

In his defence, he's not *completely* wrong. He is correct that Juggernauts are indeed locked behind Titans, and therefore behind Apocalypse. I assume that's just a mistake on Paradox's part, and that they'll fix it eventually.

[romannets]

Well thanks for the feedback.. I do already have 5 DLC's. Plantoids, leviathans, Utopia, Federations and Horizon signal. It pains me to buy the DLCs because i dont even have a job right now, money is very precious to me. I am not getting what i was advertised this had better be fixed even if i get Juggernought and not Titans.

[romannets]

When i try and build Tours Orbital Factory, it builds the first part and then the upgrade says it needs Titans technology or something. But it's a mod so i guess i can't complain.

[Nightmyre]

Originally posted by romannets:

Well thanks for the feedback.. I do already have 5 DLC's. Plantoids, leviathans, Utopia, Federations and Horizon signal. It pains me to buy the DLCs because i dont even have a job right now, money is very precious to me. I am not getting what i was advertised this had better be fixed even if i get Juggernought and not Titans.

Either way you won't get Titans. Those will always require Apocalypse.

But yeah - you may end up getting Juggernaut. Also possible that it might be something you could mod - perhaps you could remove the prerequisite of having Titans.

[EleventhStar]

patch been live for weeks how. if this is true, how has it not been fixed already?

anyways this is the kind of issue i would contact customer service about.

you guys sure it isn't just behind a ascention perk or w/e if you don't have apocalypse btw? people who have apocalypse would obviously say that it requires titans cause thats how it is for them.

[bea.hirtes]

This is the tech atm., you need still titans as prerequisit.

tech_juggernaut = {
cost = @tier5cost3
area = engineering
category = { voidcraft }
tier = 5
prerequisites = { "tech_starbase_5" "tech_titans" }
weight = @tier5weight3
is_rare = yes

potential = {
host_has_dlc = "Federations"
}

[Nightmyre]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

patch been live for weeks how. if this is true, how has it not been fixed already?

anyways this is the kind of issue i would contact customer service about.

you guys sure it isn't just behind a ascention perk or w/e if you don't have apocalypse btw? people who have apocalypse would obviously say that it requires titans cause thats how it is for them.

I'm not sure if I would call it a bug. I think that the decision was intentionally made to have Juggernaut require the Titan tech.

I think maybe just whoever made that decision forgot that it would also mean you'd need Apocalypse to be able to use the Juggernauts.

[Whysoserious]

You sure you didn't just use NSC to get the big ships? Or the doomsday weapons mod?

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

I'm not sure if I would call it a bug.

yeah thats why you go straight to customer service instead of the bug/support forums.

put it under the "money" and not a "problem with game" category too since it's a problem with your purchase.

talking directly to customer support people cost pdx more money which incentives them to fix it faster.

(and ofc if you have the balls for it/really care about it, get a refund and then rebuy it when its fixed. then it really costs them money. but that's some real effort to put into something not that important)

[Midnight]

You can change the Juggernaut prereq to battleships tech if you're willing to edit the files, as long as you own Federations

[romannets]

Originally posted by Midnight:

You can change the Juggernaut prereq to battleships tech if you're willing to edit the files, as long as you own Federations

Promising idea if it works. But i havent modded a game since Command & Conquer Red Alert rules.ini anything more complicated than that i cant get my head around. Im not a developer or a computer scientist.