Reverence for Life and Purging

[z0grim]

What is the meaning behind Reverence for Life resolution under Rules of War?

Purging other than displacement. If someone does that, they are automatically shunned forever by all other empires. If galactic community meant to set the galactic standard for things, then however horrible genocide is, unless the resoltion is passed most empires shouldn't care.

But they do care, as they all make a big deal out of it (massive opinion mallus). Currently have -300 to -900 relation due to 10 years of exterminating a fanatic purifier species, because lithoid hivemind need no such pop. But this genocide was not against galactic law.

If Reverence for Life is such a basic idea that inherently all empires agree with, then why is it not automatically accepted as one of the basic galactic community principle.

Also if all empires frown upon extermination (regardless of what species is targeted to be exterminated), then what does the resolution itself try to achieve? Ever since my empire got disapproved, the galactic community passed the same resoltion 8/10 times - denounce my empire. So it's basically the same as breaching galactic law. Also, best filibuster ever. I support my denouncement every time. I like how the current rules are set, and I still have enough diplomatic weight to have my empire on the council. Funny situation.

I'm not sure how this should be changed, but it's kinda weird at the moment.
Maybe i'm not seeing something that would make more sense. (Planetcrackers i believe also have a huge negative opinion mallus, but that's just my guess.)

[Meewec]

If you're in violation of galactic law or denounced you suffer any sanctions that have been passed

[z0grim]

Originally posted by Meewec:

If you're in violation of galactic law or denounced you suffer any sanctions that have been passed

Yes, but if Reverence for Life is not passed, that supposed to ban murdering civillians. Then technically i'm not in breach of law. But the community automatically and with fervor denounces the empire that commits genocide. Effectively having the same passed sanctions to take effect.

So regardless of the resolution, the mallus gets applied.

Only difference is, that denouncement last 10 years and have to be passed again. (Which the community does anyways.)

[Razor Feather]

Originally posted by z0grim:

Originally posted by Meewec:

If you're in violation of galactic law or denounced you suffer any sanctions that have been passed

Yes, but if Reverence for Life is not passed, that supposed to ban murdering civillians. Then technically i'm not in breach of law. But the community automatically and with fervor denounces the empire that commits genocide. Effectively having the same passed sanctions to take effect.

So regardless of the resolution, the mallus gets applied.

Only difference is, that denouncement last 10 years and have to be passed again. (Which the community does anyways.)

Have you considered killing less people? An empire that only does some genocide would get a smaller opinion malus, and thus wouldn’t be denounced constantly, but would get affected by sanctions. Also on a larger map with more empires, the hatred due to your actions may not be widespread enough for constant denouncement.

[z0grim]

Originally posted by Razor Feather:

Have you considered killing less people? An empire that only does some genocide would get a smaller opinion malus, and thus wouldn’t be denounced constantly, but would get affected by sanctions. Also on a larger map with more empires, the hatred due to your actions may not be widespread enough for constant denouncement.

I have killed off 1 species from 2 planets, but since changes are mandatory to be in effect for 10 years, it lasted for that long. I'm playing a medium (600 planet) galaxy. And this got me -300 opinion (+1 yearly) with regular empires and -900 opinion for xenophile empires. The -300 can be countered, the -900 simply cannot. (I'll have to wage regime change wars against them to change break them up/create new empires - with new small empires I have a blank slate)